This is a discussion on Texas Employees? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I just read about the new bill in Florida allowing employees to keep a gun in their vehicles as long as they had a CHL. ...
April 9th, 2008 11:04 AM
I just read about the new bill in Florida allowing employees to keep a gun in their vehicles as long as they had a CHL. Does anyone know if this is the case in Texas?
April 9th, 2008 11:22 AM
No, I believe in Texas the employer can forbid you from leaving it in your vehicle if it is on thier property. And since Texas is an At Will state, if you get caught they can fire you for whatever reason they want. But I encourage my employees, and myself to carry in the workplace. I just hate the idea of a gun being left all alone in the vehicle. They get lonely you know.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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April 9th, 2008 11:33 AM
I know I would love to carry on me while at work, but I work in the maritime field and the coast guard doesn't let merchant mariners carry while on the ship channel...
Originally Posted by farronwolf
April 9th, 2008 12:52 PM
The TX legislature had bills before them last session but failed to act. Of course, big business opposed the bills on the grounds that they should have the right to say what happens on their property. As is usually, the case, corporate survival comes before individual survival. Farronwolf is correct. If your company rules say no weapons or guns, you can be fired for keeping one, even in your pov.
It appears several bills are ready for the next session but will need some significant support. If you are not a member of the Texas State Rifle Association, you might consider joining. They keep you pretty well up to date and let you know where you can help.
April 9th, 2008 03:46 PM
Guys, how is that justified? I have no problem beleiving you but I would like to know where you get that from?
As I see it, if your car is an extension of your home then how could they fire you for having a firearm in your car?
I have skimming the penal code and don't see anything about it. Castle Doctrine brings up some interesting points too but thats not for this thread.
April 9th, 2008 04:06 PM
Because it isn't a Penal Code issue...it's not against the law to carry at your work place, but it may be against company policy.
Originally Posted by nlghthawk
When you accept employment you agree to abide by the company policy. If you get caught breaking the policy, you can be terminated. As was brought up earlier, Texas is an 'at will' state. Which basically means I can quit or be terminated without cause.
And even if they did pass a law saying that an employer could not 'ban' employees from having firearms on their property, all they would have to do is post a 30.06 sign at the gate which would make it illegal to enter.
I've never worked at a job where they did random searches of my vehicle. If you are worried about it, put it in a lock box, or an old tool box with a lock and claim to have forgotten the key if you happen to get searched(assuming you are only violating policy, not law).
April 9th, 2008 05:14 PM
The Texas version of the Florida bill will indeed come up again. I think a positive ruling in the Heller case will force the issue, regardless of property concerns simply by opening the possibility of civil actions, as I have heard discussed from time to time.
I think more and more it is becoming obvious that the need for self defense is making it harder fr the Anti-self defense crowd to maintain their position. A decision in the Heller case could fall out like this:
A) The second amendment is an individual right; it insures a right of self-defense for the person.
B) Since it is an individual right, this right should be extended to all law-abiding americans wherever they may be with reasonable oversight. reasonable oversight here may well be that while you cannot carry your weapon in the office, but you may leave it locked in your car because while you are traveling, that may be considered part of your personal property, so when you leave company property, you may protect yourself. If you are prohibited from carrying at work, your employer will be held liable for anything that happens to you.
I think this scenario may take a couple of years to play out, but I think that may be pretty close.
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