Carrying in restaurant with a bar?

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    Carrying in restaurant with a bar?

    My apologies if this is another repeat thread; I can't imagine any topic that hasn't been covered already on this huge forum!

    How many CHL carriers will have one beer while concealed carrying? I've heard a few folks on here who do not drink while carrying, but my instructor mentioned that he knows responsible folks who have no problem going to a nice restaurant, enjoying a cocktail, and not disarming. I suppose this would depend on a lot of things over all, but is there a general consensus?

    Does the fact that the establishment is ONLY a bar or that it's a bar IN a restaurant make any difference to you? If someone were going to have a drink, probably safer in a restaurant in the sense that there would be a much less chance of a ruckus compared to bar.

    In my opinion, it doesn't sound like a good idea either way. Curious if anyone can add some additional opinions.
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    Check your local laws.

    In some States carrying in places that serve alcohol is illegal.


    I carry at home when I drink a beer, but I cannot carry in a establishment that serves alcohol in my county. I can carry in a resturant that serves alcohol outside of my county
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    I hardly ever drink when out. But that was true before I got a CCP. Since people respond to alcohol intake differently, both emotionally and physically, the question I would suggest is what is your personal tolerance and do you modify your behavior when you are carrying.
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    I think it just depends on the state. In WA you're not supposed to carry into an establishment that is 21 and over only. I believe this is just referring to dedicated bars, and not restaurants that also serve alcohol. Personally I don't see a problem in having a beer as long as you know you can handle it, and it is within the law. Obviously you should not be carrying when under the influence / intoxicated.

    I rarely drink however, only do so socially on occasion.

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    I agree with the others, check your state. In Va you cannot conceal carry in an establishment that sells alcohol on premisses. That info is available on the state police web site, in Va, anyway.

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    In texas you can't have any alcohol while carrying.
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    I never drink in public while carrying. I do however, sip a bourbon or a Johnny Walker or a beer occasionally at home. Always in the back of my mind is how a police report would look if I were involved in a shooting while drinking and how it would go down in court.

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    As others have stated, check you local laws. I don't think it would be a good practice to drink alcohol, when carrying out in public.

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    Drinking is an invitation, a social act. It makes brothers of strangers, and not infrequently, spontaneous enemies. Unless I am in my home, I avoid alcohol and arms like a bubonic plague/anthrax mixer.

    Rule of thumb: if you have a drink in hand, someone will interpret it as "talk to me." It may be good talk, it may be bad talk. They may not like your answer. Why make the invitation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    Always in the back of my mind is how a police report would look if I were involved in a shooting while drinking and how it would go down in court.
    +1...., But I also know several of my friends that will on occassion, stop off at the local cop bar in their area after their shift (while still carrying) and will have 1 maybe 2 drinks and don't see a problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmac58 View Post
    I agree with the others, check your state. In Va you cannot conceal carry in an establishment that sells alcohol on premisses. That info is available on the state police web site, in Va, anyway.
    As a former VA resident and CHP holder, I can attest to that...but open carry IS legal in such places...been there, done that...you might get some looks, but most folks just assume you're a cop and don't bother you about it.

    In Florida, if you have a CWL, you can carry concealed in a restaurant that serves alcohol, but you just can't sit in the bar area, from what I've read of the laws here.

    YMMV. IANAL.

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    MI state law:

    An individual licensed to carry a concealed pistol shall not possess a concealed pistol on their person or motor vehicle while they have any bodily alcohol content (.02 bodily alcohol content [BAC] or above) or a controlled substance.*


    Acceptance of a CCW license constitutes implied consent to submit to a chemical test for violations of this law.


    A police officer who has probable cause to believe an individual is carrying a concealed pistol and has consumed alcohol may require a chemical test of breath, blood, or urine.

    In addition:
    Individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol on the following premises:

    . . .

    A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises

    . . .

    An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more

    . . .

    A Casino
    So in Michigan I could have a beer/drink at a restaurant, but not so much that my blood-alcohol level goes above .02.

    That's pretty low, IMO. One beer might just do it.

    I wonder if my local PD would consent to a test, just so I could see?


    But in any case, it shouldn't be a matter of how far one can go before one crosses over the line, but it should be a matter of being extra responsible so that the line isn't even approached.

    Oh, but to answer your question:

    For me, I'll enjoy a beer every now and then. One is sufficient for me to enjoy my meal. I typically wouldn't go beyond that in normal circumstances, much less if I was carrying.

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    Guns and alcohol....not a good mix. That being said, if you're at dinner and have a beer or two with a meal...probably no big deal. If you're "going out" for a "night"....leave it in the car.

    FYI: Flori-DUH has rules about carrying and the types of estabishments you can be in....known as the 51% rule....

    Also, when carrying...it's usually best to sit at a table when in a restaurant..... away from the bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    Always in the back of my mind is how a police report would look if I were involved in a shooting while drinking and how it would go down in court.
    Bingo. I'm not going to judge someone else for having one (ONE) while carrying, but it's not something I do.
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    Sure, I have had one beer, but I don't think I've ever taken it beyond that. And by one beer, I don't mean the 64 oz. big boy!

    In MO you can't carry in an estabilshment that makes 51%+ of its money from alcohol sales.

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