Can someone define the "conditions" for me?
Thanks.
This is a discussion on Condition 0, 1, Etc.? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Can someone define the "conditions" for me? Thanks....
Can someone define the "conditions" for me?
Thanks.
Conditions of readiness:
Condition 0: round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety Off
Condition 1: round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety On
Condition 2: round in chamber, hammer uncocked
(note: all of the above include a loaded magazine in the weapon)
Condition 3: empty chamber, hammer uncocked, loaded magazine in weapon
Condition 4: empty chamber, no magazine in weapon
"Being a predator isn't always comfortable but the only other option is to be prey. That is not an acceptable option." ~Phil Messina
If you carry in Condition 3, you have two empty chambers. One in the weapon...the other between your ears.
Matt K.
Are the "conditions" only for 1911's?
EDIT: Never mind, I just found a site that defines these in detail. Yes, the "conditions are only for 1911's.
Last edited by gg12; May 10th, 2008 at 12:05 AM. Reason: found new info..
When my XD40 has the striker indicator lit up & there's a round in the chamber, doesn't that make it "condition 0" even though it's not a 1911?
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We've done this topic before.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...de-1911-a.html
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Just don't try to put a 1911 into C2. A DA/SA like the PPK/S is designed for C2.
Condition '1'...is there another way to carry?![]()
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would it be considered Condition 0: round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety Off if your gun is a DAO with no safety?
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molon labe
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Maybe the dual action itself can be considered a "safety"? Just a matter of semantics. Both guns would function the same 0 or 1. A 1911 will fire from Cond. 0 just like a DAO. Some 1911's may even be safe with hammer down carry, not sure).
I would say a regular DAO gun should be called Cond. 1 since the conditions a gauges of relative safety of the carry. A gun designed to be carried loaded/cocked with no external safety should not be a "0" I would think, unless someone is dumb enough to get a 1-lb trigger job on it for carry!
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The condition codes are used for ALL firearms, sidearm, long gun, and shotguns.
Well, us in the Navy use the condition codes....except cond. 2, which is specificly for 1911's.
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"If you carry in Condition 3, you have two empty chambers. One in the weapon...the other between your ears."
I carry a Glock 19 with no round in the chamber and with the trigger in the pulled (uncocked) position. I can look at the gun and have 2 external indicators that there is no round in the chamber: 1 the trigger is still in the pulled position and 2 the extractor is still flush with the frame.
I can rack the slide as I pull the weapon out from my hidden carry location.
I do this for several reasons and I am wondering if there is any reason to keep a round in the chamber other than speed.
If I can draw the gun I can rack a round into the chamber.
Yoda, I am, yes.
The ability to get the first shoot off quickly and accurately is the point. How long does it take you to chamber a round? Test yourself. With your gun UNLOADED and holstered, have someone time you. See how long it takes to draw, rack the slide, bring your gun on target and fire. Then again with gun UNLOADED and holstered. See how long it takes to draw, bring your gun on target and fire.
Remember the BG already has the advantage if he has a weapon in his hand, even a split second can be the difference of walking away and being carried away in a bodybag. I want every advantage I can get. JMO
I too have a G19 and thought the same thing until I watched a few videos of defensive shootings and realized that the extra second it would have taken to rack the slide would have made the outcome of the shooting different. So now I always carry with one in the chamber. I just double my safety practices.