Feelings about SOB carry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by taggart View Post
    Also, it seems to me that someone could stop your draw or take your gun from an OWB at 3:00 or 4:00 just as easily as they could with an SOB holster.
    IMO, the SOB holster would be easier to both stop draw from or take the gun from. I have never carried SOB as my dept requires active retention for off-duty holsters and I have never seen a SOB holster with active retention. I do think that the act of drawing from a SOB holster would be more noticeable and slower than from an OWB holster. Plus, drawing from SOB puts your arm in a chicken-wing position for the BG to exploit. Drawing from IWB or OWB at 3 or 4 o'clock allows you to lock your wrist out and fire from the hip. SOB carry doesnt allow that. YMMV
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    I am a wide guy and I carry SOB daily. I can sit in the car comfortably and I can draw from the SOB position (standing).

    I'm no more worried about falling on my back than I am getting in a car accident and I still drive. A matter of fact, I have never fallen on my back in my entire life. You are more prone to injure yourself falling down pocket carry because SOB can only possibly harm you if you fall directly on your gun. Pocket carry can injure you in several positions.

    I am so wide I really don't have a choice other than not to carry. I think you need to check yourself on how SOB feels, how does it conceal for you, how is your draw and how concerned are you about the chance you may fall directly back on your pistol and having possibly crush or shatter your spine.

    For me, SOB conceals so well that I am not about to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrin33 View Post
    Aside from the spinal injury stuff, I just find it horribly uncomfortable. It's optional, but to me it really makes me not want to carry and thats not a good thing.
    +1 SOB carry is akward for me.
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    sob carry

    feeling of carrying s.o.b..........OUCH
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    I personally dont care for SOB, although there maybe some times it is right for you. I would carry at about 5ish if I did carry that way, and not plan to fall backwards. I much prefer strong side OWB with a jacket, over sized shirt or vest.
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    The real benefit of SOB is I don't need a jacket. An oversize shirt works fine. Just be aware of sitting and bending. I can sit fine in a restaurant, I just sit back in my chair with no problems. I think SOB carry has a lot to do with your body shape. I do carry at 4:30 at times, especially in the winter when I wear a jacket. In the summer I don't like to wear a cover garment.
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    I carry SOB on my HarleyI do...But let's call it SOB at 4:30...

    Do I care what anyone thinks?..., in fact,...

    Do I know 6 other people who do?

    Is it comfortable for me...Yep!

    Do I wrestle BG's, fight crime on a daily basis...

    Do I fear a spinal injury? Not going to happen, but when I carry strong side I could suffer a hip injury!

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    Everyone touts the spine/back injury - but is there any evidence of this? I carry SOB at times. Like others have stated, sitting gets uncomfortable after awhile - like 30 minutes - and that might be stretching it some. It conceals well with the proper shirt. If I know that I will be standing most of the time, I will carry SOB. Just another option. In my opinion you are more likely to fall on your butt or to your side rather than being taken off your feet and falling square on your back.

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    what a fun thread, sob is really out of favor with many people. I also would not typically choose it. Mostly because of weapon retention techniques. I know everyone says, "I don't let anyone get that close to me". Still if you are at some large event, you do not always have a say about how much personal space you can maintain. I would say my other reason is that if I have to fend someone off in the middle of a situation, I would no like to put a hand behind my back at the beginning of said confrontation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taggart View Post
    Hmmm...I'd be interested to actually SEE some stats on spinal injuries from carrying SOB. I haven't found any, myself. But then again, I may just not be looking hard enough.
    Well I was a statistic, so there's one for ya. And that was good enough for me. I got a second chance to learn from my mistake without ending up in a wheelchair! Read Post #10

    Just because I didn't end up paralyzed, it was a spinal injury none the less. A flashlight was no different than a gun would have been.

    Massad Ayoob IIRC wrote about a LEO who broke his back from landing on his handcuffs carried in that position when he got kicked off a chain link fence chasing a perp and landed on his back.

    Oh yeah, I have chronic back pain now so who knows how much of that can be attributed to the prior injury 25 years ago.

    My opinion... don't carry there and walk again another day. YMMV

    (Sometimes those types of injuries don't make it to the public domain to be looked up by the general public... If you want to do research, I would call the Fraternal Order of Police to see if they have any stats for starters. For me, the stats aren't important. I'm a medic, I KNOW the dangers are real.)

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    I CC in the small of my back. When I do it's my 380 and not a brick so I have no problems or feel discomfort. Anything bigger moves to the side... but that just me.

    by the by... I've known people having back problems from the luggage in their back pocket they call a wallet.

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    SOB carry is like any other method of carry. Some people like it, some don't. There has been a lot said about how it could hurt you if you fell down. Ask yourself, HOW MANY TIMES in the last year have you fallen on your back? Probably haven't if you're like most folks.

    There are people who advocate not carrying SOB with a pistol because you tend to hit the mag release if you lean on something. Uhh, NOT if you don't lean on things. I tend to stand up when I'm standing up. Otherwise I'm sitting down. Do you lean on your weapon if it's at another position on your belt? Thought not.

    Sitting is problematic. Not much you can do about it. It's uncomfortable, but then again, so is a 4 o'clock in bucket seats.

    As for sweeping yourself, it depends on your body type, height/weight, free shoulder movement, etc. Lastly, it depends on if the carry feels "right" as compared to any other position.

    I have carried SOB and have had no problems. It's comfortable, easy to draw, and keeps the firearm near my center of gravity. For me, it's comfortable. YMMV.

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    Well, I've seen these clips that can be attached to one's Glock that make it basically tuck like a Bic pen..this I would not do..one./.no retention, two, cold hard steel tucked into my crack, and last that clip will scratch the leather on my Denali seats...No thanks..but I have tucked with no Holster SOB, and it is the most comfortable for me..I don't even know my P13 Para Ordinance is there...even better when I wear my G23C. JMO.

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    This is a "body type" issue in my book. 5 O'clock carry works great for me and is more comfortable for me than the 3 or 4 o'clock carry.

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