This is a discussion on Tattoos, Percings and Other Profiling Techniques within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; To me, it also depends on the type of tattoos too....
To me, it also depends on the type of tattoos too.
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Now turn the clock back to now when I am married with 4 kids and live in middle class America and am in a white collar IT profession most people are surprised when they learn about my past. I guess you could say I am all grown up now, even if my Wife would disagree.
Sorry for the long hair in the pic, I needed a trim.
If you have some more please post them. Working with my daughter and some of the art professors helped me to understand a lot of things about art that I had never considered before.
Just be sure not to wear a bowtie and we will get along fine.
As a 25 year old female, who is 130 pounds and 5'3 what am I suppose to do? Are you saying that I should not profile someone who is following me to my car after one of my late night classes lets out? Or the person that keeps eyeing my purse as I am walking out of walmart in the middle of the day?
Profiling is a key thing and everyone does it. You honestly cannot say that you have never done so. If it weren't for profiling, all the guys in jail would still be on the street.
Giving my height, age, weight etc. I am considered to be a prime victim. I am not going to jeopardize my life because I didn't want to offend the person that IN MY MIND kind of scares me. That person doesn't know what I am thinking. I, however, am going to take extra precautions nonchantely and move to a safer location.
Should, perhaps. But combined with actions, additional clues can help to fill in parts of the picture.A person's appearance should have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that someone's a threat or not.
Never said that relying strictly on someone's appearance has any great likelihood of predicting anything. Am in agreement with those who say doing so can be a particularly bad predictor.... but for the red flag in your brain to go up just because of a person's appearance... that's not right.
Keep in mind, these minor indicators aren't like black, brown, blonde or red hair. That's wholly irrelevant. The style and cleanliness of hair, however, can be a small indicator as to a person's makeup or concept of themselves, in terms of how they're attempting to look, or what they're trying to say via that style.
An extreme example would be a junkie, with "the look." Another would be hiring situations, when trying to determine if that Goth beauty in the previous pic has a high likelihood of fulfilling the requirements for which you're hiring. It isn't about the outward display, at least to me it's not. It's about what may (or may not) be behind such a characteristic (anger, distress, insecurity, nothing). Try to distinguish, in this discussion, between merely long hair, versus long and unkempt hair. Add in a nervous demeanor and a bit of a look in the eyes, and you could easily have a person on the short end of the string. Who's to say. The point is, ignoring it could give a bad read. Doesn't hardly mean you treat someone wholly different because of it. Just means you should consider why we maintain awareness at all.
One's cultural presentation is an amalgam of many factors, some of which can be apparent depending on the strength of the "printing" on that person's identity and character. As such, depending on the situation, some of these indicators can support or refute some of the other, more concrete, signals you get from someone's outward presentation.
Anyway. It is what it is. Flatly ignoring such things on principle, alone, isn't for me. That might be fine for some. YMMV.
Keely, I think the most important factor is not what you see or think, but your own feelings in any given situation. I know if I was being followed by a thug looking group while walking in an area and that "feeling" hit me that I would have to make a determination of my next action.
I would probably get the same feeling if I was being followed by the Alex P. Keeton group in another part of town in the same situation.
I am imagining a situation like the park scene in "The Outsiders" where the BG was actually the clean cut kids banging on the greasers.
In the end it is your comfort level with the situation you are in, NEVER ignore your gut feeling; otherwise it my be your guts that are on the ground. And remember, if your gut feeling was wrong and you were never in any danger but were offered a copy of The Watchtower, but you were safe anyway, then you will only have something to come back here and post and we can all have a safe chuckle, after the fact.
Last edited by Paco; May 26th, 2008 at 07:54 PM. Reason: My poor typing skills.
My point here as you pointed out is that my gut is going to tell me what to do, just like it does for everyone other person in this world. The other person that is making me feel uncomfortable DOES NOT know what I am thinking and therefore there is no offending going on just in case I am wrong about my opinion.
Many years ago my wife, oldest daughter (she was about 3 at the time) and I were at one of the state parks walking back to the parking lot one Sunday afternoon. All of a sudden this motorcycle gang come riding up and I could see the concern on my wife's face. My daughter ran and jumped up into my arms. When they parked and shut off their engines I heard one of them call my name. Turned out to be a bunch of fellows that worked at the same company I did out for their Sunday ride. I gave them a hard time about scaring my daughter like that.
I always look at this like this ... if it walks like duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck... it most likely is.
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