Bad Neighborhood Profiling

This is a discussion on Bad Neighborhood Profiling within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by JudoJake I think that when you are really in the hood, you know it, because of things that we have just discussed. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJake View Post
    I think that when you are really in the hood, you know it, because of things that we have just discussed. However there is are places that look nice, but when given a deeper look, such as expired tags, it tells a different story.
    Very true... here is some more subtle ones like that;

    baby strollers left in the front yards or on porches

    Indoor furniture used in the exterior and the other way around too

    car parts stored in driveways

    blankets hung in windows

    again, shopping carts

    small piles of unburnt tobacco

    beer cans laying around

    trash cans out on non trash days

    broken car antennas
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    I guess if you were staying somewhere you could watch the local news in your hotel room. That might give you a good idea of where the bad stuff happens in town. This might help you plan your vacation/trip around those areas.

    You have got this down SIXTO. Next time I go to the hood, I need you for backup.

    Well I am a narcotics detective. I know what the unburnt piles of tobacco is for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJake View Post
    Well I am a narcotics detective. I know what the unburnt piles of tobacco is for.
    me too.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJake View Post
    You have got this down SIXTO. Next time I go to the hood, I need you for backup.
    I've spent more time than I'll ever admit in rough parts of town, I cant wait to be done with the narcotics work and return to my cushy home department.

    Heres a good one;

    -plenty of cigarette pack litter, but the cellophane is always missing.

    -the local stop and rob sells the flowers in a little glass vase

    -chain link fence isn't reserved for industrial or even just backyard use
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    LiveLeak.com - Cop Fired Over 'Ghetto Handbook'.

    Author of "ghetto handbook" fired... he was a cop too... straight up though, you got people clueless enough to not even know they were in the "hood" and be perfect victims of any crime of opportunity.

    One time I was in downtown Baltimore, totally lost close to the convention center and court house, it's technically not the "hood" but with all the bums and crack heats, what the hell is the difference? The streets smelled like pee and the ground has broken crack pipes on the floor (it's well known that crack users will break accessories when cops around)... I asked 2 homeless drug users for directions, and one of the junkies told the other junky "no man, don't show him anything." Got some bad vibes and got the hell away from them because I finally realized what they were about and who they were, and to believe I almost thought they were tourists (they had luggage)... that was dumb off me.

    Also had a gang of 6 bums rush me for a cop of soup, I felt they were literally gona beat my face in if I never surrendered the stuff... that night left me thinking about how much Baltimore has fallen... nothing but bums, junkies, crack houses in the section 8 area, gang bangers etc... it's just bad.

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    Lemme take a picture as I walk outside tomorrow morning and just use that as a reference...

    Baltimore is pretty bad, Ive visited a few friends who live there and I do not really ever want to go back, at least to those parts. I still goto an orioles game every now and then. We had a bum break into a car and sleep there for a night one time..

    I would say a bad neighborhood is any place you feel uncomfortable visiting. You're probably uncomfortable for a reason.

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    So I'm in KC south of the river. Wife wanted to see if there was a shortcut. As we were driving the store signs changed from English to Asian and Spanish. Once we went a few more blocks you knew you were in the 'Hood'. There was only one ethnicity. The yards were poorly kept. The houses all needed work. There was misc. junk in every yard. People loitering about all over the place, all watching us. Since I knew it was a grid system I started to make a square block U-Turn. Came around the corner to see 4 squad cars and they were just finishing up cuff'n and stuff'n some guy.

    Well one of the officers sees us and we are out of place for this place. So he high tails it to his cruiser and follows us until we get back on the main road out of the area, then an immediate peel off into another not so nice section. So one way to tell is when you get a police escort out of the 'Hood'.

    Another way to know is when a a cop stops you and asks you what you are doing in this neighborhood. You tell him you live there and he just shakes his head and laughs asking for an address and id. Then you find out he is there because they are taking down a couple drug dealers in one of the buildings.

    Another way to tell is when you come home from a trip and an apartment building is missing across from yours. When you ask about it you learn that the crack lab caught fire and burnt the place down.

    Another way is the constant stolen car patrols run by the local PD. They would roll through at night with their inside light and spot on looking at tags.

    Another way is when you get the knock on your door asking about the break in, and this happens regularly.

    Another way is when the State Trooper in the unit below yours tells you how he was held up with his service pistol and that they stole his cruiser as well.

    Another way is when you are outside, you hear gunfire and no one seems to care.

    Another way is when you wake up on morning and you find a guy on your balcony working on the sliding door.

    Yep, young, no money and living in "The Hood". Great times, and I hope to never repeat them.
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    Gee... seems like you all exactly know where I live ;-)

    Couple additions:

    - the nicer neighborhoods sometimes have more serious crime (home invasions, planned burglaries) then the worse neighborhoods (petty theft... most of the violent crime is druggy-vs-druggy).
    - you can stay safe in a bad neighborhood if you don't "show" (e.g. the typical tourist with a big camera getting lost in a bad neighborhood) and don't take part in the crimes (e.g. kids from the burbs buying drugs in the hood).
    - people sitting outside can be good or bad. Depends on who is sitting outside. (comes back to profiling people).

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    I've experienced some of this while inadvertently passing through some rough areas. (Got lost heading out of the Portuguese section of Newark (lunch) and find myself being quite antsy until I got out of town.

    I have a question. I was told that sneakers that are hanging off of power lines are some type of sign for either gang or narcotics activity. What do the hanging sneakers mean?

    Thanks.

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    Even good neighborhoods, can have BG’s living there.

    In our local news, I’ve noticed more and more Police NARC raids where a middle class neighborhood house was busted for raising cannabis using green house lighting.

    Being house concerned instead of neighborhood, I can only think of a couple more thing we should watch for.

    A lot of visitors coming and going from the house
    Yard run down, yet the cars look great
    Late night visitors

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    Quote Originally Posted by sojourner View Post
    What do the hanging sneakers mean?

    Thanks.
    I think it means that a fellow gang member was killed and they hang up the shows as a reminder... I have seen these a few miles up the road from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR2008 View Post
    I think it means that a fellow gang member was killed and they hang up the shows as a reminder... I have seen these a few miles up the road from here.
    Thanks.

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    I have seen it to mean the following:

    1. Gang memorial for a fallen brotha
    2. Dope for sale here
    3. this is the boundary of our turf, going under the kicks on th ewire is like standing under mistletoe except you'll get shot
    4. Hoes for sale here


    Then there is always they *used* to belong to the weak kid in the neighborhood.
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    A bad neighborhood to me is one in which there are no legal CCW permit holders. Another week and my neighborhood will be back in the good category

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    All the squad-cars on patrol have TWO LEO's in them and every stop you see has TWO or MORE squad-cars.
    The Town of Addison (suburb to Dallas, Texas) Population is approximately 10,000 growing to 35 to 40 thoussand on weekends. The only time our units had two LEOs in one is for training. Sunday thru Thursday our city was pretty laid back, the patrol officers would get bored. If someone made a traffic stop every patrol car would show up.Freak out the poor guy that was stopped.
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    usually about 7 blocks either way, of any of the Martin Luther King blvd's....
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