This is a discussion on Something wrong with this picture? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; The only thing Grandma did wrong was that she didn't pull the trigger and save the city money and other people sorrow in the future. ...
The only thing Grandma did wrong was that she didn't pull the trigger and save the city money and other people sorrow in the future. The Perp probably has allready repeated offences in the past 8 years.
Also, about those castrated people, the only thing I can say about their stupidity is that they have become desensitized by violence in their communities and through the media... their minds have been weekended and warped over decades of faulty programing... this is only the natural end result, people who will see someone stabbed, and when a good Samaritans comes to save them with a firearm, they scorn her because it upset their perverted world view that guns are evil, and only bad people use guns. These days, even the police are deionized by these perverts, why do you think the morons over at Berkly and code pink protested marine recruiting stations yet having no problem with porn theaters are portrayer's of filth? For the same reason the media morons scorned the brave grand mother who saved lives with a legally owned gun.
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Not to hijack the thread, but I am curious if anybody can cite a statute from a particular state that would prohibit one from using lethal force in defense of others. My understanding is that, if it would be legal for person A to use lethal force in self-defense, then it is always legal for person B to use lethal force in defense of person A...
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Good for Granny.
"She did what was right not what was smart. Such a shame there is even a question here. Tells you how far we have slid as a society."
I cannot think of an example in the US.
God, country, family.
I think I would have done the same thing as Granny. Seeing 2 people attacked with a knife should be grounds enough for taking action. However, I can't necessarily agree with the 2 Wal-mart employees that allowed themselves to get cut. I mean, is $6. an hour worth it? Wal-mart is a pretty darn big store. They could have just let the guy go and let the cops deal with it. If the BG was slashing in an attempt to get away, I say let him go. If he was actively chasing and slashing the employees, then I say Granny did what was right. This scenario is kind of tricky. I find it hard to believe that any retail entity would require it's loss prevention employees to risk life and limb over a VCR.
This just goes to show you that the people interviewed that were "scared" of a grandmother wielding a WEAPON to stop a WEAPON wielding CRIMINAL _HURTING_ people don't use logic at ALL in their lives.
They walk around with no logic on an everyday basis. I am very scared of these people.
This woman who said she'd of died of a heart attack in line if her kids were there... So otherwise if no gun was pulled she would of gotten out popcorn and been rooting for the walmart employees to get stabbed to death?
I am so confused by this type of reaction, but I think its just people not really thinking rationally. They are thinking with their deep-seated fear of guns, and not thinking of both people in the situation using a weapon. One was using a weapon, whether it was a knife, gun, or his fists to assault and steal. The other was using a weapon, whether it was her knife, guns, voice, fists or whatever to stop a violent crime.
I mean really..
I really don't know what to say. I mean I have alot to say here about this, but I am too steamed. I honestly would have to really stop and think about it or I'll just rant. For now, I just have to say that old story or not I am glad that no one got hurt and she didn't have to resort to firing the weapon, and that I am sick of people bitching when good people, soldiers, firemen, police, etc protect them or rescue them. If you don't like how they do it, do it your own self! Maybe they should modify do not revive regulations to do not assist in any way jackasses that don't want help because they are stupid DNAIAWJ? Sorry, like I said, I should have not posted.
Granny done good. Only thing I criticize is her wording, though the quote maybe totally inaccurate. But she got the action stopped, even without further bloodshed, which is always preferable.
As for the HCI , well, what do we expect? The statement is total BS, Granny didn't escalate anything, she stopped (ie: ended) the situation. May have even saved lives. Almost certainly saved further injury. But HCI is hard core, make no mistake, they are Freedom's enemy. They are to be discredited and occupied at every opportunity. Tell others of their lies, when they come to the door, engage them in long conversation pretending you are interested-keeps them from recruiting more support. Request their literature (uses their resources). Send back the postage paid contribution envelopes empty (costs them money).
As to the lady , she is our quarry. Don't care what her type think? Better start. They vote. People like that can again empower the government to take away our rights. It is wrong minded sheep like her that we need to reach, to educate, to sway, in order to preserve our aFreedom and our very way of life. We need to win some hearts and minds! One at a time.
Regards, T Bone.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
I'm really POed that an attempted murderer x2 was let out on only $3,000.00 bail. That's outrageous.
Last edited by KenInColo; June 2nd, 2008 at 09:01 PM. Reason: spelling
An armed populace are called citizens.
An unarmed populace are called subjects.
She must have had that "look"... you know, the one woman can give us... and he knew to drop the knife. LMAO.
I'm for her. She prevented further consequences from the guy with the knife.
But this stuff (below quotes) ... tick me off. She was the GOOD GUY, guy with KNIFE is BAD GUY... get it straight you nimrods. What did they have to fear from her ??
'We want to keep our stores a pleasant place to shop, so we would never encourage our customers to arm themselves,' said Wal-Mart spokesman Tom Williams. ...
"Shopper Lorinda Smith, who was in the candy aisle during the confrontation, said Tuesday that she was more frightened by Suter's gun then the man's knife.
Without reading every post, but enough to see too many post saying she should not have gotten involved, I could not disagree more. Had she simply stood aside and allowed this to continue it is very possible that an employee could have been killed, could you live with that decision had it been you? As some of my other Texas friends have said... I don't see any other choice but to get involved and stop the threat. This time it did not take a round being fired, but the next time it could, and it could be you... we had better know what we would do before that time arrives.
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CT is pretty liberal, but deadly force is authorized in the defense of others from the use of deadly force or great bodily harm. Good for granny.
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To respond to the original post, no, this grandma did nothing wrong. We need more people in this world like her!
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