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This is a discussion on Why carry? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by CR2008 This video makes my heart sink... only if those in positions of authority would take people's safty as seriously as they ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR2008 View Post
    This video makes my heart sink... only if those in positions of authority would take people's safty as seriously as they claim... these "gun free zone" places have never showed any evidence of making people safer, never been a report of a criminal stop by a flimsy sign, but the lies still are propagated by the media morons.
    But in addition to mass homicide, you'll be able to charge the perp with trespass.

    "Those who beat their guns into plowshares will plow for those who didn't." -- Thomas Jefferson

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    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

    Because I can't carry a cop around all day.

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    Why carry?

    Because I love my family and myself!!!

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    ........................because criminals carry
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    The following was stolen by me from a letter I received. Wish I could say it was my own!

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If
    you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me
    via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human
    interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or
    force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through
    persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the
    only thing that removes force from the me nu is the personal firearm, as
    paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason
    and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment
    of force.

    The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal
    footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a
    19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of
    drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical
    strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force
    equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all
    guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed]
    mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential
    victims are m ostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no
    validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

    People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young,
    the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society.
    A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society
    where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that
    otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several
    ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior
    party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

    People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal
    force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a
    bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works
    solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are
    armed, the field is level.

    The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as
    it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a
    force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because
    I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced,
    only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me
    to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me
    through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes
    force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

    By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

    So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can
    only be persuaded, never forced.

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    Because i wont let my family or myself become the "next" victim
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    I want to carry because i have an obligation to protect my four children, my wife and other people close to me. A gun is the only thing that can help in almost any circumstance

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    moving video...if one person in that room would have been legally carrying....that day would have ended much sooner...what a shame that our individual rights do not matter to so many people.

    --people ask why I carry, and I show them this picture. I think it says it all.--

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    It is my responsibility to my wife, and grand kids not to be victims. And as I get older (now 60), I am starting to realize, that I can not defend myself as I use to. With the crimes against older folks we need to carry, no matter what AARP says.
    John Steinbeck: Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

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    Just what the heck DOES the AARP say??? I don't belong!

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    Why do you carry a gun?

    I just thought of the way that I'm going to answer this question, should anyone ever discover that I'm carrying.

    Q: Why do you carry a gun?
    A: "The mere sight of this tool on my hip can prevent Assault, Rape(I'll point at my wife if she is with me at the time), robbery, murder, burglary, and kidnapping(I'll point to my daughter if she is with me at the time)...I feel these are important things to guard myself and my family against.

    I don't think anyone can really argue with such logic :)

    Then again...

    Speak softly, and carry a big stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsnake View Post
    Just what the heck DOES the AARP say??? I don't belong!

    Last I heard, they were very anti gun. That was years ago, though.

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    Why carry? Well, Jake, Gordon, Josh, Terry, Jason, Denise, Gorge, and others make a pretty compeling reason for me.

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