Concealed carry at a gun show

This is a discussion on Concealed carry at a gun show within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Here in South Dakota its like Florida (no mag w/zip tie). I completely ignore all signs, pay, and walk in. It seems damn ridiculous that ...

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    Here in South Dakota its like Florida (no mag w/zip tie). I completely ignore all signs, pay, and walk in. It seems damn ridiculous that I cant "carry" in a gun show doesnt it? So, right or wrong I just cruise right on in.

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    If any of you have ever worked behind the tables at a gun show you know why the rules are what they are. I really don't want Joe Shmo pulling out his .40 S&W whatever loaded and sticking it in my face while saying, "You got a clip for this?" And in most cases if you pull out an unstrapped firearm at the gun shows I go to you will likely be looking at the ceiling very quickly. Or at least when you come to. Then you will be escorted out.

    I have been on both sides of the table and I always get my gun strapped and leave the mag at the door. I have been about as far as you can get from the entrance and discover that although I left my BUG in my COM I forgot to leave the spare mag. Even though my BUG was a .380 and my EDC gun a 10mm I walked all the way back to the entrance and had them place the mag with my other one.

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    In the State of Georgia, you can't carry to a gun show that is held in a public building because that would be considered a public gathering. Same goes for athletic events etc... if you were caught here doing that, you would lose your carry permit. When July1st comes, we here in GA can carry to food places serving booz, and we can use the local buses and carry at transportation hubs... but we won't be allowed to carry at public gatherings still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyboyLDB View Post
    There is no law here in TN nor in GA that prohibits carry at a gun show. With that said, most are manned at the door with LEOs - signs stating that you are not allowed to enter with a loaded gun or loose ammo. Since that sign is in essence being enforced by LEOs - I would say you would be arrested.
    And charged with what?
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    FlyboyLDB wrote: There is no law here in TN nor in GA that prohibits carry at a gun show. With that said, most are manned at the door with LEOs - signs stating that you are not allowed to enter with a loaded gun or loose ammo. Since that sign is in essence being enforced by LEOs - I would say you would be arrested. It is more of an insurance/liability issue - .... "

    Yes there is, it is the ambiguous 'Public Gathering' law.



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    And charged with what?

    Having a weapon on your person at a prohibited place, a Public Gathering.


    It is a very silly law that was removed (HB915 I think...) from the State's session this year and never placed in HB 89, the sweeping 'gun reform' bill that Gov. Purdue just recently signed.


    As far as carrying in a gun show, I have, in other states I've resided in, but my carry weapon was strictly that.....not to show anyone, looked at for a trade, etc, etc. I'd bring other guns in cases (no ammo), checked cleared, blah, blah, blah for 'whatever' I was thinking of doing at a gun show...trade, sell, gunsmith work,,......
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    The gun shows that I've attended in Tennessee have been in a civic center or park where it is illegal to possess a firearm anyways. I find it kind of entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaShooters View Post
    Not legal to carry in a Gun Show here in Florida.
    As previously mentioned, there's no law that forbids carry at a gun show in FL.

    Gun shows generally forbid carry, but that doesn't make it illegal. The illegality would come into play if you were discovered, asked to leave, and refused. Then you could be guilty of armed trespass.......and that's not a good thing.

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    You better know your laws, or get burned.... no joke

    Quote Originally Posted by rmarkob View Post
    And charged with what?
    You would be charged with carrying a concealed weapon and you will have a mistermeaner charge for the first offense, 2nd offense is a felony from what I have read, and ANY event held in a public building IS considered a public gathering... knife show, gun show, antique show etc, it matters not, what matters is that any thing held at a publicly owned or operated building is off limits (unless it's a local or state park after July 1st).

    Try testing this system and see how far you get... tell them about the 2nd Amendment all you want but but you better know your public gathering laws because it's grounds for being arrested, charged for a concealed weapon, and losing your carry permit (probably permanently too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PocketRocket View Post
    To me not being able to carry at a gun show is like a person having to be skinny to attend a Richard Simmons weekend convention.
    +1, who would dare to go stupid in that situation. Its almost like holding up the neighborhood bar all the off duty Cops go to.
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    but keep in mind according to the anti's the gun show is where all the criminals obtain their guns. So clearly there is a threat at these shows lol

    Actually i think the real problem would be if someone did try something, could you imagine the cross fire taking place there wow. Hit the deck

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    I am not going to get into whether or not it is or should be illegal at a gun show but I am of the opinion that if the promoters of the event post proper signage and have LEO or rent-a-cops at the door then you should not carry inside. It is not your right to intrude on theirs. If you ignore all of that and still carry and are caught then they should immediately haul you butt off to jail. I really don't care if there is a law on the books stating that you can't carry or not or if it is privately owned or state owned.

    If someon would brag about flaunting the laws and ignoring them on carrying then I would say have the same attitude about other things and cannot be trusted. You feel that your rights trump everyone else's. If this is you then it is meant for you, if not then I am not then ignore it.

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    Here in Upstate SC the Greenville show is always at the Civic Center which is posted. So we cannot for that reason. I noticed last time they finally put new signs up so I am fairly certain that they intended to keep it that way. Other than that, I don't know of any SC law preventing it. But the posting is legal.

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    In Virginia, they put a zip tie through the pistol and security keeps your ammo/magazines until you leave.

    The people I've talked to indicated that it really isn't so much a factor of laws throughout the country as it is the insurance requirements for the gun shows themselves. If the gun show doesn't have a stated policy of no loaded weapons, then they can't get insured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_cmg View Post
    If any of you have ever worked behind the tables at a gun show you know why the rules are what they are. I really don't want Joe Shmo pulling out his .40 S&W whatever loaded and sticking it in my face while saying, "You got a clip for this?" And in most cases if you pull out an unstrapped firearm at the gun shows I go to you will likely be looking at the ceiling very quickly. Or at least when you come to. Then you will be escorted out.
    If I read your post correctly, you are speaking for your personal practice, in situation "X". And I would not suggest any law, or other pressure, requiring you to act otherwise.

    However, I am speaking against prior restraint -- especially prior restraint in violation of a State Preemptive Law.

    How is "I'm afraid of gun in situation 'x' ." any different that the Anti-gun forces being afraid of gun in situations 'a,b,c,...etc.' as a basis for restricting legal carry? Fear on the part of the someone without the gun should not be sufficient reason for prior restraint of otherwise legal carry by the one with the gun.

    Also, Nearly every State has post offence laws that would apply were
    Joe Shmo pulling out his .40 S&W whatever loaded and sticking it in my face
    for whatever reason, in any situation, in any location -- unless in the act of self-defence. Being escorted out should be out en-route to being booked, IMHO.

    Deal with the idiots post offence -- don't dump prior restraint on everyone because of fear. That's what the want to do. "I (the ) am afraid of someone carrying a gun, except...." is no different from ""I'm afraid of someone carrying a gun in situation 'x' ." Each are based on fear of how a gun will be used/handled. Neither. justifies prior restraint

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR2008 View Post
    In the State of Georgia, you can't carry to a gun show that is held in a public building because that would be considered a public gathering. Same goes for athletic events etc... if you were caught here doing that, you would lose your carry permit. When July1st comes, we here in GA can carry to food places serving booz, and we can use the local buses and carry at transportation hubs... but we won't be allowed to carry at public gatherings still.
    Oh yes, that PG law. There is no official ruling on what actually constitutes violating the PG law. There are some unofficial opinions - but nothing written in code. And although you can ride on public transportation come July 1st - once you purchase a ticket to ride and others do the same - it still is a PG. Look for this law to be tested in places like Atlanta on the MARTA system after July 1st. Then it is going to come down to does HB 89 take precedence or does the PG law. But as far as the PG goes - no one actaully knows what pertains - it all depends on the arresting officer, DA and the Judge. I highly doubt you would get arrested at a gun show in GA for PG violation - more for disorderly conduct for not following a LEOs orders. In all my time going to gun shows, I have only seen one person escorted out by a LEO - and that was all that happened - the guy refused to unload his gun. But my opinion is this show is being put on for us & dealers - the least we can do is show some respect by obeying the rules - same as anywhere else - you can obey the laws or not.

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