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This is a discussion on Conceal N Carry-Mecklenburg County, NC within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; You are correct imatt just reread statute g.s 14-51.1 and I stand corrected thanks!!Tom...

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    You are correct imatt just reread statute g.s 14-51.1 and I stand corrected thanks!!Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomEgun View Post
    You are correct imatt just reread statute g.s 14-51.1 and I stand corrected thanks!!Tom



    The more people informed about the law the better!

    Now it's up to us in NC to help push through legislation the expansion of Castle Doctrine.

    NC House Bill 476.
    This bill attempts to break Castle Doctrine from the bonds of private residence - giving you rights wherever you have the legal right to be. Not just at home, in your car, etc.

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    Is this bill in session now?
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    It's on hold till the 2009 session.
    They didn't make the deadline for the 07-08 session. We have to wait till the 09-10 session.

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    In Guilford County it took 5 weeks to get an appointment at the Sherriffs office then 90 days after that. I already had all the appropriate FBI and other background checks to and a security pass at RDU.

    Now hear that the wait at the sherriff is as much as 8 weeks due to the number of applications.

    A friend in Randolph county called the sherriffs office, went in the same day, and had his permit shortly thereafter.

    In reality the wait is the finger print results, the asslyum report, and what ever the sheriff wants to do.

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    Man you could have applied for a out of state VA permit from VSP and gotten it back in 45 days which IIRC is still good in NC.
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    My (apparently unusual) Mecklenburg county experience - I applied for the CHP this year (2008) soon after Chip Bailey became Sheriff. I was told it will take "exactly 90 days, no exceptions!" for the permit to be issued by the clerks at the office. I received the card stating that the concealed permit was available for pickup 47 days later. I guess either they really screwed up, there was some sort of divine intervention, or Chip may have put a priority on expediting the permit process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomEgun View Post
    Hi All
    Know your pain..lol i live in Johnston County took 2 months here!!
    and yes NC laws on protection in the home are absurd!!Its the Kalifornia on the right coast!!.

    Not even close buddy!!!
    I use to live in the Republic of Kalifornistan, and trust me if you were there for a few months you would be crying for the gun laws here in NC. As for some of our stupid laws, like not carry is places that sell booze, or charge admission, don't sit back and whine, join Grass Roots of NC. Nobody is doing more for our gun rights than this organization. We almost got the Castle DSoctrine approved last year as well as removing the restaraunt restrictions, and places that charge admission but we ran out of time. Hopefully in 2009 we can get it done again, but if you want change you need to do your part to help it along. Most states have a Grass Roots chapter. Look forward to the new NC gun laws!!
    The time it takes to get your permit has to do with your local sheriff, complain to him, it isn't a state wide problem. My sheriff is very pro gun and U had mine is less than 6 weeks, renewal in less than two. You are living in one of the most liberal parts of the state, besides Raleigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdoctor View Post
    sorry to hear about that....guess I won't be retiring to NC....
    Come on dowm to Wayne County NC, my first permit took 3 weeks, first renewal a bit longer 2 months, this last renewal only took 2 1/2 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomEgun View Post
    North Carolina already has Castle Doctrine!

    Hi All
    From what I understand and was explained to me in class that if someone is breaking into your house in NC you are ok to shoot if you stop the BG in the process of coming through the door or window , once he is inside a whole new set of rules apply!
    if you wake up and BG is standing over your bed and is not armed or in process of leaving you cant use deadly force!, the only time you can use deadly force in your home is it falls into the criteria of the 4 things they explained in class IE threat to your life ect..if you shoot BG in your house and could have retreated then its prison for you!!
    Would much rather have TX or Fl laws!!

    I was also taught this and All of you need to REREAD IMATTS post it says.

    "including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry "

    ENTRY is the key word

    the CASTLE LAW applies to ENTRY ,not someone standing over your
    BED

    This allows you to use deadly force if (HE) is not armed
    This does not apply if he is in your house already
    If he is already inside,then the standard laws of deadly force apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSA9 View Post
    I was also taught this and All of you need to REREAD IMATTS post it says.

    "including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry "

    ENTRY is the key word

    the CASTLE LAW applies to ENTRY ,not someone standing over your
    BED

    This allows you to use deadly force if (HE) is not armed
    This does not apply if he is in your house already
    If he is already inside,then the standard laws of deadly force apply.

    IANAL however if they are standing over me and I shoot would that not be terminating the unlawful entry of the said perp. The statement

    "including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry " as I see it allows me to stop a forcible entry in progress (bashing in the door, breaking a window ..etc) and eliminate the threat by terminating there unlawful entry. They have unlawfully entered my home. If they are standing there looking at me or in the process of removing items I believe I have the right to terminate there unlawful presence.

    Am I off line here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCWINNC View Post
    IANAL however if they are standing over me and I shoot would that not be terminating the unlawful entry of the said perp. The statement

    "including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry " as I see it allows me to stop a forcible entry in progress (bashing in the door, breaking a window ..etc) and eliminate the threat by terminating there unlawful entry. They have unlawfully entered my home. If they are standing there looking at me or in the process of removing items I believe I have the right to terminate there unlawful presence.

    Am I off line here.
    All I can tell you is that my instructor was very clear on this point
    and went as far as to show video of both the entry and the occupation of the home

    Sorry WVBelcher, I did not mean to Hi Jack your post
    It took me about 60 days to get my permit in MECK County
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    90+ days in Rowan County.

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    I'm in New Hanover, and it's been over 90 days and I'm still waiting.

    And I thought Castle Doctrine meant you were protected from civil suits if it's deemed a legal self defense shoot, if so, NC does not have this in place. You also have a duty to retreat in NC...

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