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This is a discussion on Brady Campaigns list of CCW holder crimes within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; The majority of these people didn't have a prior record according to the 'report'. One guy in Seattle didn't even commit a crime yet it ...

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    The majority of these people didn't have a prior record according to the 'report'. One guy in Seattle didn't even commit a crime yet it made it in there.

    Ironically one guy's crime spree was stopped with another gun.

    As previously mentioned CC license holders are arrested far less per capita than non-CC licensees. So should we thank these Brady clowns for proving our point or just ignore this non-story?
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    They tried to make it look impressive by spreading it out onto an 18 page report. Pure propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bal_g23 View Post
    http://www.bradycenter.org/xshare/pd...s-misdeeds.pdf

    A good few sound like they could be justified, but Im having a hard to justifying some of them. But note that none say the outcome of the event and if the CCW holder was charged or not.
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    Most of these would have still shot their victim(s) whether they had a CCW or not. Fight with the neighbors - get the gun from the house. Wife giving you a hard time - get the gun from the house or just plan in advance. For some, the CCW just kept them from an arrest should a LEO happen up on them carrying - i.e., they would have carried regardless of being approved or denied a CCW. So after reading these, I would say 85-90% were not initially "law abiding" - they were just working the system. Yes there are some morons in the mix on the list - but it is not a perfect world - hence the need for a CCW.

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    I'd say that list pretty much makes our case and really makes the Brady Bunch look stupid. But of course, being stupid they don't even see that and will never understand it.

    Anyone who joins the Brady Bunch should automatically be sterilized so they won't be able to breed. It would raise the collective IQ of the human race by a nearly exponential factor.
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    They really should have someone check their facts.
    Can anyone find Prince William county Maryland on a map for me?
    Oh, wait..... There is none!
    There is a Prince George's county in Maryland but the closest Prince William county is in Virginia.
    Oh, sorry, I forgot, we are talking about the Brady Bunch here and to them "Facts" dont seem to matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyboyLDB View Post
    Most of these would have still shot their victim(s) whether they had a CCW or not. Fight with the neighbors - get the gun from the house. Wife giving you a hard time - get the gun from the house or just plan in advance. For some, the CCW just kept them from an arrest should a LEO happen up on them carrying - i.e., they would have carried regardless of being approved or denied a CCW. So after reading these, I would say 85-90% were not initially "law abiding" - they were just working the system. Yes there are some morons in the mix on the list - but it is not a perfect world - hence the need for a CCW.

    Exactly...any of the crimes mentioned have nothing to do with CCW except that "CCW" is what they're going after. If someone wants to walk into a hospital and shoot nurses (this is the first time he's decided to kill someone), having his CCW makes no difference! The entire report is a scare tactic, and important aspects are left out like another CHL holder using a gun to diffuse a hostile situation.
    It is utterly illogical to believe that passing laws to reduce gun violence will be successful when those who are commiting the gun violence do not obey the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandit383 View Post
    Wished they would also post the protection and/or saves due to CCW or armed during home invasions.

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    That they will never do that. It would make them look the part of bigger lairs and hypocrites that they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandit383 View Post
    Wished they would also post the protection and/or saves due to CCW or armed during home invasions.

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    Yea right... from an organization that uses JUNK stats with gang bangers, drug dealers, junkies and suicides as "victims of gun violence."
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    I only read a few of the "crimes", but how does one, "fatally shot his neighbor four or more times?" Do you shoot them to death, resuscitate them, shoot them to death, resuscitate them, and repeat?
    Also, is anyone familiar with a, ".38 caliber fully automatic weapon"? Not that those are the biggest flaws in their logic, but I found them entertaining.
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    Minnesota provides carry permit holder stats (every year) with who was convicted of crimes like DWI and others. It turns out we are 25 times LESS LIKELY to commit crimes

    Wow what a concept!
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    Thanks for the link. I feel dirty pointing my web browser to a brady campaign URL though.

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    I counted 96 for a 10 year period. That's low even IF IT ALL HAPPENED IN 1 STATE, NOT THE WHOLE COUNTRY!
    And some of those were for carrying in "gun free zones," not a real crime IMO.
    Idiots at Brady............
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    In reading the list, did anyone else notice this?

    Just because something is a "crime" doesn't mean its wrong.
    Carrying a gun into an airport? A "crime" but not wrong.
    Carrying a gun on campus? A "crime" but not wrong.
    Unlawful transportation of a firearm? A "crime" but not wrong.

    Also, there is a huge difference between a person with an outstanding warrant and a convicted felon. Obviously, the Brady bunch wants to take away our rights without due process as evidenced by the gray box on page 3.

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    I wonder in those 12 years how many people with drivers licenses commited a crime with a vehicle??
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