sees weird to use one..
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No straps, just quality holsters.
I once missed a step coming down a bleacher at a local rodeo (another story). This 'six decade old' body bounced down the last three steps and onto the ground. I jumped back to my feet, picked up my dignity, and continued on my journey...the sidearm never left its IWB leather holster.
Don't need no stinkin' straps...walking lessons, yes...straps, no!
Stay armed...use a quality holster...stay safe!
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OWB in a good leather rig and never a retention strap.
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Personally I have absolutely no need for a retention strap. I carry everything in a VM-II.
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[QUOTE=That is the reason that I have had most people give me. I think it is more a myth than a fact. The majority of law enforcement are required to use a minimum of 3 point retention holsters, and I have known an awful lot of officers who were not slowed down one bit by it.
It really is just a training issue and practicing issue. That strap won't slow you down one bit once you train yourself to draw the weapon the correct way every time.[/QUOTE]
LEO's have to do a lot of things because of dept. policy and not because it's the best thing to do. It took years before Detroit PD could carry hollowpoints. Law enforcement is not always the best model for CCW. I agree many LEO's are not slowed down by retention straps but I have seen plenty of video of LEO's struggling to get their guns out in dynamic critical incidents when caught completely off-guard.
I agree persistent training helps but simply taking a good force-on-force course can illustrate how much things change when someone is put under stress. I personally choose to normally carry without extra retention devices. The one exception is the Serpa holster I use for private security duties. Just my opinion.
I have a couple of OWB holsters that have thumbreak straps. I can draw just a fast from them as any other holster. When my hand moves into position the thumb naturally hits the snap when gripping the gun. However, I rarely carry with these holsters b/c they are diffucult to conceal unless I'm wearing a coat or jacket.
Last edited by sgtD; July 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 PM.
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I agree with the quality IWB holster and no strap. However we've been riding a bicycle quite a bit (good cardio) and I've been using a OWB holster with a retention button and I cover the whole thing with a long t-shirt. So far I like using this arrangement when riding, if I take a bad spill in the street somewhere I stand a good chance of retaining my CCW during the mishap. I'd rather EMS find it, than a neighborhood kid finding it later in the grass somewhere.
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I have three different CCW holsters:
- TTGunleathers IWB - no strap
- Blackhawk SERPA - Has retention button but no strap
- Bianchi Black Widow - has retention strap
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I never use a retention strap, Just something else to get in the way!
No my crossbreed uses indentation in the kydex trigger guard area to retain weapon,I have seen thumbstraps on holsters hinder a draw in the past,that fraction of a second may be enough to let the other guy shoot first
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Same as everyone. No retention. I carry in a CTAC.
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Add me to the no strap group. I've carried for a long time and just don't like the strap/thumb break. The only time I use a holster with a strap is when bike riding or hunting with a large frame revolver.
During the fall and winter, I OWB w/ a Bianchi Shadow 7 with thumbsnap. I have found that I am just as proficient drawing and presenting with a fluid motion with the thumbsnap as without.
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I use a SERPA holster so I guess I do have a retention device. I even use it for IDPA. Even with this I was third out of 46 for pure speed at the last match. it doesn't slow me down much, if any, at all.
As a caveat, I did just order one without the SERPA part for the upcoming State Championships I'm going to, just to try and get as much jump as possible.