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MI State Police Firearm FAQ Legal Update - Open Carry LEGAL in MI and other good stuf

This is a discussion on MI State Police Firearm FAQ Legal Update - Open Carry LEGAL in MI and other good stuf within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by sixball I have had two pistols in for safety inspection in the last three months. In both cases the sheriff told me ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixball View Post
    I have had two pistols in for safety inspection in the last three months. In both cases the sheriff told me to keep the inspection green card with the gun at all times. I never checked the written law but was talking with my brother about two weeks be for this post came up. He does a lot of work for a township police department and told me BULL you do not need it in your position. Well now I don't need to research this thanks Nice post.
    I believed the open carry be for the post but just wondering how far down the street you would get be for the local LEO might give you a little hassle? anybody have any experience?
    It is pretty typical for the LEO's that do the inspection to tell you to keep the green card with the gun. It's also typical for them to ask to see it if they stop you while you are carrying. The state police will tell you it is not required, but they recommend you keep it or a copy with you when packing. I took all the green cards for the pistols I might pack, and made a photo copy, and that is what I carry. The green card stays locked in a fire proof safe.

    For Open carry stories, I suggest the forum at Open Carry dot Org.


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    Michigan law does not require a person to have a copy of their certificate with their pistol after it has been registered
    Sort of puts a stop to the claim it is not a registration.
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    Registered (placed) into the state police database that it was safety inspected. From the get go in 1925, it's understanding is that it was a pseudo-registration.
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    Michigan Law Enforcement is actually very pro-gun. I really doubt you'll ever have a problem here. Michigan Officer's are really professional.
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    Agreed.
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    Must be nice to live in the UP, except the black flies and snow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveH View Post
    Sort of puts a stop to the claim it is not a registration.
    The interesting thing about that, Lansing Police have, as far as I know, never denied that it was registration. In fact, there's a sign over the window you go to at the station that lists what can be done there, among things such as background checks, "Pistol registration."

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    I might be wrong and if I am please let me know.From what I understand the Michigan State law allows open carry, but leaves it up to local goverment bodies to detemine if they want to allow open carry. So one town may allow oc but the next town over (or township) may not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovernm View Post
    I might be wrong and if I am please let me know.From what I understand the Michigan State law allows open carry, but leaves it up to local goverment bodies to detemine if they want to allow open carry. So one town may allow oc but the next town over (or township) may not.
    MCRGO VS. Ferndale: Appeals court holds the michigans pre-emption law is clear that local units of government cannot enforce their own laws that relate to the possession or transportation of firearms.
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    Sweet. Thanks.

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    (2) A local unit of government shall not impose special taxation on, enact or enforce any ordinance or regulation pertaining to, or regulate in any other manner the ownership, registration, purchase, sale, transfer, transportation, or possession of pistols or other firearms, ammunition for pistols or other firearms, or components of pistols or other firearms, except as otherwise provided by federal law or a law of this state.

    (3) This act does not prohibit a local unit of government from doing either of the following:

    (a) Prohibiting or regulating conduct with a pistol or other firearm that is a criminal offense under state law.

    (b) Prohibiting or regulating the transportation, carrying, or possession of pistols and other firearms by employees of that local unit of government in the course of their employment with that local unit of government.

    (4) This act does not prohibit a city or a charter township from prohibiting the discharge of a pistol or other firearm within the jurisdiction of that city or charter township.
    This is the preemption statute. Section 1 is just definitions, so it's omitted here.
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    You can google the "Michigan State Police Legal update"
    The april and May 07 updates discuss open carry in more depth.
    The whole deal w/open carry i think is great and I do it from time to time, but I am reminded of a gun forum (the firing line) where wildinalaska (something like that) commented on open carry that paraphrasing "I see few tactical advantages and plenty of political, social disadvantages."
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    Quote Originally Posted by para owner View Post
    I have to disagree with the safety inspection certificates point. My ex-brother in law is the local armorer and training officer for this area and the sheriffs dept. He states that if I loan my weapon(handgun) to a friend I must also give him the inspection certificate. I assume that if the person gets into a situation, where law enforcement has to check the serial numbers or background of the gun, having the inspection certificate will offer proof that he has legal permission by the owner to possess the gun.
    This is what really gets me! According to many, (LEOs included) say a cop canít remember all the laws.

    Well which ones are they paying attention to? Only the important ones like parking enforcement?

    I have to learn my job to be proficient at it. So why is it that they can haul you in to court waist your and the courts time and somehow itís OK. Itís not

    I had a cop when I first started to carry was making a big issue of my high cap mag. He says this is more than ten rounds. I had to explain that the ten round issue is for manufacture not position or sale. He took the gun and 20 minutes later he comes back from his car and tells me that he knew that as he hands me my equipment.

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    As I understand it, this Michigan man had all those printed out too when he got arrested....


    West Michigan News from the Grand Haven Tribune a Michigan Newspaper

    Seems one town doesn't wish to acknowledge the pre-emption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
    As I understand it, this Michigan man had all those printed out too when he got arrested....


    West Michigan News from the Grand Haven Tribune a Michigan Newspaper

    Seems one town doesn't wish to acknowledge the pre-emption.
    I see another lawsuit coming. ;)

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