July 7th, 2008 11:44 AM
I apologize for giving offense; it was unintended.
Originally Posted by Tubby45
That is your opinion and I respect it. I see this law as identifying a specific limit on a property owner's rights. I am not familiar with what rights Florida law states that property owners have, but surely there are other limits. I doubt if Florida law states that the property owner's rights are absolute.
Originally Posted by Tubby45
July 7th, 2008 12:48 PM
What are you..., in 3rd grade or something?
Originally Posted by kentuckycarry
July 7th, 2008 01:18 PM
There are other places in FL besides hotels. I don't stay in hotels, they cost too much money.
Originally Posted by Miggy
I understand that however my point is that the law FORCING property owners to allow firearms on their property is violating their property rights and should not be allowed. What FL is doing is taking control over business rights when they have no legal grounds nor authority to do so. It is seen as a victory for gun owners but in my eyes it's a slippery slope at the loss of property owners' rights. I allow firearms on my property by choice, if Michigan FORCED me to allow it, they are violating my property rights. The state nor any government cannot dictate what items I allow on my property. That is my choice to decide, not theirs. They are overstepping their powers. It's time to tighten the leash on the government, not loosen it.
The simple truth is that if you have a business open to the public, you are bound by the law to operate no matter what policies you choose to implement.
Exactly: "your right to self defense", not your right to possess weapons. We have the same "vehicle is an extension of your home" clause in our Castle Doctrine/Self Defense Right package. That extension applies to self defense, not general blanket rights.
Originally Posted by David in FL
Not the same.
Assuming the weapon stays in the car
and is concealed such that no one else would know that it's there, then telling someone that they can't keep it there, is akin to telling them that as a condition of employment they're not allowed to keep guns in their home for self protection either...........in my ever so humble
Originally Posted by Anubis
July 7th, 2008 04:18 PM
OK time to reverse this. What state or county in the US does not "force" you to do anything at all in your business property?
I understand that however my point is that the law FORCING property owners to allow firearms on their property is violating their property rights and should not be allowed.
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
July 7th, 2008 08:59 PM
I say that until a private business owner can GUARANTEE that no criminal will bring a gun onto his property, which might threaten MYSELF, he has no right to prevent MYSELF from bringing mine.
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July 7th, 2008 09:20 PM
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July 7th, 2008 09:40 PM
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