Defensive Tool choices for Canada and New York State?

[Cupcake]

Soon, we'll be heading out for a drive through Canada to New York state, then back to stay in Niagara Falls, Canada. Obviously my tools of choice are staying home.

Anyone know what tools are legal in both place, or can I safely assume that defense of self and family are effectively outlawed in both locations?

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[retsupt99]

I'd take a good sturdy cane...regardless of physical need. That's about all Canada would allow.

Stay armed...use your cane...stay safe!

[morintp]

If you're going to ride the bus in Canada, I'd take a nice sturdy metal collar.

Seriously though, I don't know if knives or OC are legal to take across the border. You should definitely check it out, you don't want to be stuck at the border.

[youngda9]

You could probably carry a knife, not sure of the laws you'll have to check them out. But knives don't stop bullets very well.

A cane swung like a helicopter over your head can confuse the attacker, it might allow you to get the jump on them, great idea Ret.

[morintp]

I'm not sure how good it is, but I found a site that has a bunch of information:

A Practical Guide to Canada's Gun Laws for Americans

It seems to say that pepper spray is illegal unless you have it to use on vicious animals.

Pepper spray is legal if it is intended for use on vicious animals, and is a prohibited weapon if intended for use on vicious humans. On the other hand, if you carry it to protect yourself from vicious animals, and are attacked by a vicious human, it is legal to use it on that vicious human. It doesn't have to make sense, it is government policy.

[pgrass101]

In Canada you can carry Pepper spray only to defend yourself against animals. You can use it on people if attacked but you can only carry it for use on animals.

So if asked it is to defend against dogs, bears or geese.

I would get an Unbreakable Walking-Stick Umbrella I'm saving up the $180 for it.

[morintp]

Here is a good source directly from the Canadian government:

FAQs - Import/Export

Q. Is pepper spray allowed in Canada?

Criminal Code Regulations prohibit Mace and similar products designed to injure, immobilize or incapacitate a person. Bear sprays and similarly devices clearly designed for protection from wild animals are allowed.

This is the import/export FAQs, so apparently you can bring a large canister of pepper spray across the border.

Edit: New York requires that you buy pepper spray from either a pharmacist or a firearms dealer, and you need a form from LEO...

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/me...MMONQUERY=LAWS

Before delivering a self-defense spray device to any person, the
licensed or authorized dealer shall require proof of age and a sworn
statement on a form approved by the superintendent of state police that
such person has not been convicted of a felony or any crime involving an
assault. Such forms shall be forwarded to the division of state police
at such intervals as directed by the superintendent of state police.

[kohburn]

I wonder how the grizzly spray works on humans? definately not volunteering to find out, but i do own a can of the bear spray approved for use on all bears.

[youngda9]

I wonder how the grizzly spray works on humans? definately not volunteering to find out, but i do own a can of the bear spray approved for use on all bears.

Ship it to Cupcake for testing !

[tns0038]

I'm not sure how good it is, but I found a site that has a bunch of information:

A Practical Guide to Canada's Gun Laws for Americans

It seems to say that pepper spray is illegal unless you have it to use on vicious animals.

Thanks

Excellent read for visitors...

[Cupcake]

Thanks, I'll have to find some pepper spray that someone labeled for bears.

I wonder if that new york law applies to purchases only, or if possession of something already owned has to be registered?

[Rob99VMI04]

I would take the highest intensity flashlight you can afford. SureFire or Like.

kubaton on your keys for use as a flail.

[boscobeans]

New York Law concerning pepper sprays.

• You must be over the age of 18.
• You must have no history of felony convictions or assaults.
• Product must be purchased from an authorized dealer, pharmacy or gun dealer.
• You must complete a form with your name, address, birth date and signature.

CANNOT BRING INTO NEW YORK FROM ANOTHER STATE
CANNOT PURCHASE THROUGH THE MAIL
CANNOT GIVE TO A MINOR.

NO NOTE FROM A LEO IS NEEDED.

Almost all stores that sell guns and ammo sell the sprays.

You just fill out the form and make your purchase.

[Cupcake]

Thanks Bosco, They sure don't make it easy for travelers, do they?

[GunnyBunny]

You can buy bear spray while you're up here. That way you wouldn't raise any eyebrows coming north across the border.
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