How not to conceal your weapon.
This is a discussion on How not to conceal your weapon. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; A good friend of mine who is a Deputy Sheriff was telling me about an incident that happened a few weeks ago around here. He ...
August 10th, 2008 08:36 PM
How not to conceal your weapon.
A good friend of mine who is a Deputy Sheriff was telling me about an incident that happened a few weeks ago around here. He was not the LEO but was laughing about it. Remember that in South Carolina, Open Carry is not an option.
It seems that they got a call from the local Wal-Mart about a man with a gun. When the police arrived they found the fellow was carrying his gun IWB but with the grip fully exposed. he had made no effort to conceal the grip only the barrel of the gun. They approached him and asked for ID etc. It turned out that the had a CWP but evidently just did not understand what concealed meant. They explained to him that in SC that they gun had to be completely concealed and if not he could be charged and arrested. The fellow carried his gun out to his car and returned to his shopping. The officer made a report but did not arrest the fellow and returned to his rounds.
About two hours later this same LEO revceived another MWAG call from a different store. When he arrived it was the same fellow and he still had the grip of his gun exposed. This time the officer explained the concept of concealed carry to the man and told him that the next person to do any explaining about concealed carry would be a judge. He again did not arrest him but let him off with a stern verbal warning.
August 10th, 2008 08:45 PM
I am afraid the second time would have gotten him arrested if I had been the LEO. Some people only learn the hard way.
August 10th, 2008 08:46 PM
He should have arrested him the second time. Obviously the guy doesn't understand concealed carry and shouldn't have a permit.
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August 10th, 2008 08:50 PM
Cop tells me to do something or to stop doing something, and has chapter-and-verse to back it up, I do what he says. No specific references? Heck, I do what he says anyway!
After I get home, if I'm curious, I look it up. If I find an apparent disagreement between the officer and the actual law, it is time to start a deeper "dig" - perhaps through higher-ups at his agency, or a lawyer if I'm motivated. But arguing in a WalMart aisle ain't the place.
At least the fellow didn't say something like "I'm gonna shoot the next guy who tells me I can't carry openly" or some other bluster. Wonder who taught the CCW class he was in? Hope the fellow hears of this episode and begins stressing the OP prohibition a little more. To be sure, it was a "Concealed" class, but it should have been discussed to the point that Joe Showoff would never have appeared here.
August 10th, 2008 09:28 PM
Ignorance knows no limit. First, the offending fool lacks any sense of discretion. Second, he's resistant to what would appear to be a generous and very professional courtesy from the LEO. Idiots like this will only favor opponents of carry.
August 10th, 2008 09:40 PM
I hope he bought a lottery ticket that night, because he had a big lucky streak going!
I'd say it was very unusual that he didn't get arrested the 2nd time
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August 10th, 2008 09:48 PM
I must admit I would have probably made an arrest the second time around.
August 10th, 2008 09:53 PM
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August 10th, 2008 09:54 PM
I guarantee you the fellow knew his gun was exposed. It probably had more to do with "look at me" instead of ignorance.
August 10th, 2008 09:57 PM
Sure you can... Let's see. There's lots of methods:
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- Electric chair
- Firing Squad
- Lethal Injection
- and of course my favorite...Darwin awards for those who would rather take themselves out of the gene pool for us
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August 10th, 2008 09:58 PM
This is a case of the CWP instructor NOT pounding the concealed section into his students.
I agree, 2nd time = free ride to jail.
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August 10th, 2008 10:01 PM
Sounds like this guys brain has only two speeds...slow and off. He won't have his CCW permit very long.
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August 10th, 2008 10:07 PM
As Bill Engvall would say "Hey Bubba.....heres your sign!!!"
A trip to jail and explaining to the judge as to why the warning didn't sink in the first time is what he should have gotten after the second call to the police.
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August 10th, 2008 10:28 PM
From time to time during my career I would encounter people who just would not think the words you were telling them applied to them. You could look them straight in the face and say don't do so and so, or do so and so this way, and they'd just smile and keep on doing their thing.
The guy is lucky he wasn't arrested, but I bet he must have somehow impressed the cop that he was O.K., because that second chance was pretty dang generous.
The fellow is one of those who just thinks the words don't apply to him. He heard what the cop told him. He probably was told what the law is in his concealed class. He just thinks the words don't apply to him.
The cop will see him a third time I'm sure. The end result will be an arrest.
August 10th, 2008 10:42 PM
It isn't the concealed part that concerns me...if he didn't have enough sense to understand the gravity and responsibility...then I cringe on his understanding, knowledge, and experience concerning the use of the weapon.
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