Are CHL holders more likely to be stopped by police?

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    wow, i was way under. It appears there are over 20,000 members and 700+ people online now...

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    The answer is of course yes, that is if you always drive 15 mph over the posted limit.

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    My last speeding infraction where I was not ticketed after presenting my CHL was last year!

    Yes, I am bragging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    My last speeding ticket was 20 years ago.
    Yeah I havent been caught in years either.

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    I've had two tickets since I've had my CHL.........seven years. The rest were warnings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    My last speeding ticket was 20 years ago.
    I would have similar bragging rights if that turkey had let me finish running the red light before he pulled out in front of me.

    Darn! What happened to the defensive drivers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cl00bie View Post
    I see an awful lot of threads with "Great LEO encounter" in them. This leads me to believe that CHL holders are more likely to break traffic laws than the general population (or are more likely to talk about it).

    The smiley suggests you're joking. If you're not:

    The problem is sampling bias: here, we sample for those who carry concealed. Thus, ANYTHING reported here will have an inordinate number of concealed-carry people represented: for example, many posts talk about houses. One could conclude that a surprising number of concealed-carry folks live indoors.

    The CLASSIC sampling bias problem was the Dewey-Truman election and a sample taken by phone. Richer associated with Republican, and at that time richer and phones were found together. Thus, all the folks who had phones were planning on voting for Dewey, and the newspaper published "Dewey Wins!" before the vote was counted. Truman won, and we've been ridiculing the paper ever since. Doesn't quite match the current thread's protocol, but you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cl00bie View Post
    I see an awful lot of threads with "Great LEO encounter" in them. This leads me to believe that CHL holders are more likely to break traffic laws than the general population (or are more likely to talk about it).

    Why and how do you come to the conclusion that because someone writes about a 'good LEO encounter', that CHL holders are more likely to break traffic laws than the general population?
    I can see absolutly no logical basis for that conclusion.
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    In FL, for example, only 1-3% of the population CCW...now you're going to tell me that 1-3% of the population get a majority of the traffic tickets...in your dreams!

    I'll make that a definite, NO!

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    My sense is that most people when they start to carry become more polite, go out of their way to avoid situations that could escalate into a physical confrontation, tend to slow down when they are driving, and, in general, even for the younger rambo types, try hard to leave their egos at their doorstep when they leave the house.

    Yes, I know that their are exceptions, but I believe that the statistics establish that they are a distinct minority.
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    I think that part of the misconception comes from Hollyweird and the media and their comments about the accused didn't or did have a permit to carry a gun. This tends to give the impression that all BG's should have a permit which is the exact opposite of real life. I would like to see the stats for crimes involving guns and in general on how many had permits, didn't have permits and couldn't get permits. I think you would find that those who couldn't get a permit far outweighed the other two categories.

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    Those with a CHL are more likely to watch their actions and keep from being stopped by LE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cl00bie View Post
    I see an awful lot of threads with "Great LEO encounter" in them. This leads me to believe that CHL holders are more likely to break traffic laws than the general population (or are more likely to talk about it).


    Could it simply be that you are on a forum where I'm going to guess that 99.999% of people carry. Ever gone to a car forum and see how many people talk about getting pulled over for speeding?

    Usually goes like this $*(#&$(*%& of a cop pulled me over for doing nothing.. .

    Here we atleast admit to our mistakes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD 45 View Post
    Those with a CHL are more likely to watch their actions and keep from being stopped by LE.
    That's my opinion too. At least I try to do that.
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