County Fair NOW Posted
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September 9th, 2008 01:46 AM
County Fair NOW Posted
To my amazement my county fairgrounds are posted now, Iím thinking this is the first year they have had signs up, as I know for sure they didnít 2 years ago because I carried every day.
They had a sign about being subject to search at anytime and that you were under security camera surveillance as well...
"What if? If not, who needs seatbelts, life rafts, and fire extingishers. Sure theres other ways, if thats what you want... I know ill be alive, dry, and not on fire!"
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September 9th, 2008 01:53 AM
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September 9th, 2008 01:55 AM
Now....deep down inside, I'm wondering if it's actually private property, or public property. Well....if the taxpayers are ultimately funding the property or paying real estate taxes on it. Interesting. A real bummer of sorts. You know...some places are just coming around to thinking about this sort of thing---the postings of no weapons, no firearms, no concealed---etc. I wonder if taxpayers paid for that sign? You might check into the 'Washington County Fairgound Inc.' and open a real can of worms there. That is if you were so inclined. May uncover something that's not really 'fair'.
September 9th, 2008 02:01 AM
Hey, in Tennessee the fair is in a "park" and is off limits by statute.
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September 9th, 2008 08:13 AM
Interestingly, here in Orlando, most of the larger gun shows are held at the fairground......
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September 9th, 2008 09:47 AM
That stinks. I'm in Smyth County VA and my wife and I were just in Abingdon and saw the sign for the fair. She said it was always great. I've never been and I probably won't go now.
September 9th, 2008 10:00 AM
There was a case pending last year in Texas of a school district that made their own non-binding signs by combining the actual binding sign and a school zone sign. Looked real official, but was not in accordance with statutes. This could well be the case here.
But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...
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September 9th, 2008 10:22 AM
Went to the fair last year & it was posted. Also had to go through metal detector.
Gangs are causing big problems here. My question to the officer at the gate was, "what stops them from sliding it under the fence"? He refused to answer...
September 9th, 2008 10:29 AM
Originally Posted by kf4uel
If the property is owned by the county then they are violating Virginia Law by having said sign.
My question is how can you have private property owned by a COUNTY?
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September 9th, 2008 11:23 AM
I suppose it could be private property that is leased to the county? It's not unusual for a landlord to post their properties even if the business tenants leasing space have no issue with firearms. The property owner rules in these cases, unfortunately.
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September 9th, 2008 11:58 AM
And thus the term NPE (non permissive environment)
In MO even if you are discovered carrying in an NPE, it is not a crime, UNLESS you are asked to leave and do not, which would be reeeally dumb.
(With the possible exception of Fed buildings and PDs, I'd have to re-read it)
I'm not advocating ignoring posted signs, just making an observation.
Personally, some signs I ignore, others I do not.
Depends on the potential risk/vs penalties.
September 9th, 2008 11:59 AM
well,thats not good.looks like an
open invitation for b.g.s to me.
sure is an ugly looking thing isn't
it. a little bit of white paint in the
upper left hand side should to the
trick= firearms allowed to leo.
plus...... all law-abidding citizens
legally carrying may enter.
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the world coming too"
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September 9th, 2008 12:22 PM
How times have changed!
being a kid at the County Fair watching my (late) Dad shooting 22s at the shooting gallery. When I was old enough to shoot they had changed it to air powered BBs (#2 lead shot) Man that was where I spent all my money!
Oh well enough about having fun at the fair... back to topic:
September 9th, 2008 12:28 PM
According to the website, "The Washington County Fairground is a non-profit, non-stock organization", so it is a private company/property, not county or state owned. Therefore, they can post the sign. Now, that sign has no legal meaning in Virginia. In Virginia, you must be asked to leave the property and then refuse in order to be charged with anything, and then it is a trespassing charge, not a weapons charge. On the other hand, it is their property and I would respect their property rights by not carrying. Of course, I would also respect my rights by not attending. No guns = no $$$.
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September 9th, 2008 12:37 PM
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