Sooo, what do you with your strong side?
This is a discussion on Sooo, what do you with your strong side? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Thumper
I've gotten in the habit of carrying almost everything in my off hand, even my keys. Sometimes you can use a ...
September 15th, 2008 06:47 AM
my thoughts exactly, groceies are hitting the ground.
Originally Posted by Thumper
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September 15th, 2008 07:53 AM
You have a couple of options.
1. Carry only items in you left hand.
2. Drop or throw at the perp what every you have in your right hand. Good tactical option but hard on the pocket book.
3. Carry a bug for your left hand.
I use all these options depending on the situation and glad you are thinking about these type of things.
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September 15th, 2008 08:25 AM
Need be, I can drop anything I'm carrying. I just don't think that it's that important to keep my strong hand completely empty/free/ready-to-go every second of every day. Heck, if I'm carrying too much on my weak side, I'm unbalanced and probably not in any better shape to react to a situation anyways.
I also tend to think that favoring my strong side tends to telegraph that I'm carrying. Something that I prefer not to do.
Just my .02.
Last edited by David in FL; September 15th, 2008 at 10:40 AM.
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September 15th, 2008 09:02 AM
Just a side note: This is actually situational awareness not Operational Security or OPSEC. OPSEC would be keeping a close hold on who knows you CCW, info about your security plan, routes, rules of engagement, etc...
Originally Posted by aznav
September 15th, 2008 09:38 AM
How long does it take to drop something? Maybe a half second? Drop it !!
September 15th, 2008 09:43 AM
I too carry with my weak hand most of the time. When I have too carry with my strong hand it I will throw whatever object at the BG while going for my gun.
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September 15th, 2008 10:10 AM
Just a side note .. If you are forced to unburden yourself NEVER drop what you are holding . Pitch it away from you and away from the direction you are going to move ( get off the X ) . The last thing you want is items underfoot to trip on as you move .
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September 15th, 2008 10:19 AM
drop what ever I have and or throw it at the BG then back away and try to put distance between me and BG
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September 15th, 2008 10:29 AM
I prefer my draw to be more discrete. Announcing to the world that you're pulling a pistol by dropping a load of groceries is anything but. It could even make you look like the aggressor by casual observers.
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September 15th, 2008 10:30 AM
Use whatever is in your strong side as am improvised weapon.
If I have to carry anything in my strong hand I make sure it's lighter but HARD so if I have to swing it at a bad guy it rattles their noodle before I let it go and go for my other defensive tools.
For instance.. groceries.. in my left hand will be the bread and eggs and such, but in my right hand will be the canned goods. You take a swing at someone with two or three cans of Campbells soup in a plastic bag and if they are smart they are going to back up, if they are stupid they are going to get those cans upside their head or body and it's going to hurt. Not to mention buy you a little time and space to drop them and create more distance, and if necessary, draw other defensive tools.
And heck, he doesn't know you have tomatoes in the bag. Swing those at him anyway. For all he may know it's a brick. More than likely he'll step back providing you with much needed distance, therefore more time to draw.
I don't buy just outright dropping whatever it is that is in your hands (if you are forced to carry something strong side in the first place). That's a HUGE cue that your responding. If, however, you use what's in your hands first, you may throw your attacker off guard.
Granted if what you are carrying is too heavy to swing or too precious to use as a tool (say, your child), then it's time to reevaluate your decision making paradigm.
September 15th, 2008 11:35 AM
Carry non-defense items weak hand side.
As for dropping or swinging. I agree that the items dropped at your feet would be a possible trip hazard. You don't want that. I also agree that they will telegraph that you have something more important to do with that hand. The cover garment going back and a firearm appearing in it do that too, so I don't think that is a problem. Using the bag with it's contents as a swinging weapon, not so sure about the logistics of that. There is a lot of windup in using one of those for a swing weapon. Even if the contents stayed in the bag until the swing has connected, it would be a long and clumsy move. Much better to just lose it or not carry anything at all.
The cart is really a good idea. Put it between vehicles and open a door on your car and you are barricaded into an area that will protect you from direct physical contact. It also traps you from escape. One member detailed how he knew he was being shadowed and used a cart between cars to keep one wolf at bay while he turned on the other. That was a very effective move and one I remember always while leaving any store.
Summary:Cart=GOOD, free strong hand=GOOD, keeping your brain engaged while living in a dangerous world=PRICELESS
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September 15th, 2008 11:57 AM
Originally Posted by AZ Husker
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Eccl. 10:2
September 15th, 2008 12:46 PM
If I can't carry it ALL in my weak hand, then I push a cart. If BG approaches, I can have both hands to draw weapon and my tomatoes are safe in the cart instead of crushed where thrown.......
September 15th, 2008 04:16 PM
Use a cart! It doesn't matter if you have a gallon of milk or many bags, use a cart. The cart can be used as a barrier against an attack. I had a student that worked nights and would do her shopping on the way home late at night. I told her a cart makes a nice movable barrier giving you time to draw your gun if you have to.
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