The Wisconsin Personal Protection Act

The Wisconsin Personal Protection Act

This is a discussion on The Wisconsin Personal Protection Act within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; It went up for ratification yesterday and I can't find word one about it. Nothing on TV or in the newspapers. I know the liberals ...

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    The Wisconsin Personal Protection Act

    It went up for ratification yesterday and I can't find word one about it. Nothing on TV or in the newspapers. I know the liberals are just hoping it will go away. Anyone heard anything? Thanks.

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    WI Update Forward!!!!!

    email forwarded


    At 3:10 am this morning, the state Assembly passed the Personal
    Act shall-issue concealed carry bill by a vote of 64 to 32.

    All Republican members of the Assembly voted for the bill, except for
    Republican Representative Mary Williams who was absent due to illness,
    for the seat left vacant by Republican Representative Vrakas. That seat
    soon be filled by a PPA supporter.

    Democrats voting for the bill were the five who voted for the bill and
    veto override last year: Representatives Barbara Gronemus, Marlin
    John Steinbrink, Terry Van Akkeren, and Amy Sue Vruwink. Also joining
    Democrats in voting for the bill was Representative Mary Hubler of Rice

    This brings us to exactly the number of votes we need for a veto
    And Representative Hubler made a public statement that, given the
    she requested, she would vote for the bill and for a veto override.

    Two Democratic representatives from solidly pro-gun districts did not
    for the bill: Representative Mike Sheridan of Janesville, and
    Tom Nelson from the Kaukauna area.

    There were several amendments added to the bill, including a provision
    requires a brief "refresher" course upon the expirement of the five
    permit; a provision that requires those carrying to have a blood
    level of less than .02%; a provision prohibiting carry by persons
    outside a
    motor vehicle less than 100 feet from a school, school playground, or
    property owned by a public school; and a provision that would make it a
    felony for any person to make a false statement on the application for

    Many who receive these email alerts will be offended by the amendments
    had to be accepted. Rest assured, so are the hundreds of WCCA
    who've worked literally thousands of hours over the past four years to
    us this far.

    However, in many respects this bill is less restrictive than the
    bill. And, make no mistake, the anti-gunners tried their best. They
    tried to
    exempt the city of Milwaukee from an area where you could carry. When
    failed, they tried to exempt all of Milwaukee county. They tried to
    places where children play and alcohol is present--their so-called
    "Chuck E
    Cheese's" exemption. They tried to probibit carry at Miller Park
    the State Fair Park, and the Summerfest grounds.

    They tried to prohibit carry at any facility where nurses work. They
    to prohibit carry at any place that could be called a "playground."
    tried to make the list of permit holders available to the public,
    the news media. They tried to make it illegal for an employee of a
    to even have a firearm in his vehicle if it was in the company's
    lot. They tried to prohibit carry in any place that could be called a
    "financial institution." They tried to make all private property
    to carry, unless the owner of the property posted a "guns-welcome"

    And it went on, and on, and on.

    Those who stayed up until the wee hours to listen to the debate know
    there were many, many restrictions on carry that were shot down.
    Representative Gunderson did an exceptional job in getting the needed
    while shunting off amendments that would have turned this bill into a
    worthless piece of paper.

    If we didn't have one of the most anti-gun governors in the country,
    amendments wouldn't even be necessary.

    But, the fact is, Governor James Doyle is indeed one of the most
    governors in the country. If Governor Doyle had not been able to dupe
    gun owners back in 2002 into believing that he was pro-gun, we would
    have a
    clean shall-issue concealed carry law right now.

    That's history. Today is today.

    Consider this: Governor Doyle right now has low approval numbers, but
    does not mean that he can't win re-election. If he does, his power over
    members of his party in the legislature will only be stronger.

    Here's an even more ominous possibility: twenty legislative Republicans
    be retiring from office in 2006. If the Republicans should suffer even
    a net
    three-seat loss in the state senate, the concealed carry bill will
    even get a committee hearing, much less a floor vote. It would be a
    of 2002, when Democrat Majority Leader Chuck Chvala controlled the
    and kept the bill from being voted upon.

    If the Democrats win back the Senate, it will not matter who is
    the Personal Protection Act will never see a vote.

    With those two possibilities facing us, supporters of the bill decided
    we would stand a better chance of getting an amended bill passed now,
    than gamble on what happens in the elections next November.

    Because of the additional amendments, the bill now heads back to the
    where members will vote to approve the amendments. There should be no
    there, and the amended bill should pass quickly.

    And then, of course, Governor Doyle will veto the bill.

    In the coming weeks, it is extremely important that you write, call and
    email your representatives to either thank them for their vote, or to
    them to reconsider their positions and vote to override Governor
    veto. If Representative Gary Sherman could change his position last
    year and
    vote to sustain Doyle's veto then, with enough pressure from
    constituents, a
    legislator who voted against the bill today can change his or her
    and vote to override the veto.

    The first veto override session will take place in the Senate sometime
    January, and then will be followed by an Assembly veto override vote.

    That gives us just weeks to convince members of the Assembly that their
    chances of re-election this fall lie not with the governor, but with
    massive numbers of gun owners in the state.

    This has been a tough fight, and we've come a long way, too far to give

    We've reached the number of votes to defeat Doyle. Whether or not we
    win is
    up to you.

    To get the contact information for your representative, go to and enter your address.

    And, please forward this to every friend of Freedom that you know.

    The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association


    We are watching this pretty heavy on but it seem's that they do have enough vote's to possibly veto it. We will see.


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    34 - this site will tell you more than you want to know about the bill. you can even watch live video feeds of the chamber while the debates are going on. I work third shift, and I was lucky to be on a computer most of the night last night, so I was able to watch most of the debates. It's pretty interesting. Right now, the ammended bill will go back to the senate so that they can pass it again, after that, it goes to Doyle to get vetoed, and then back to the senate/house to hopefully override that.
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

    Conceal This.

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    What a convoluted and lengthy process to ratify what should be a simple right.

    Glad it looks better than it did - small bonus I guess.
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    We went through this same crap in Missouri and I am sure it has been close to the same way in every state when trying to pass it. It is very thick red tape that will be cut in time.

    I will not be happy until all 50 state's have RTC!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti Carry
    I will not be happy until all 50 state's have RTC!

    Amen brother, and with full reciprocity!

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    +1...the benefit of 50 state RTC and reciprocity would be enormous to everyone, even the anti's. They just don't know it yet....
    noli nothis permittere te terere...

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