Florida and Utah non-resident permit questions
This is a discussion on Florida and Utah non-resident permit questions within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I have a current NC CCW. I have found out that if I move out of NC, I lose my permit (even though I am ...
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September 25th, 2008 12:28 AM
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Florida and Utah non-resident permit questions
I have a current NC CCW. I have found out that if I move out of NC, I lose my permit (even though I am military, because my Home of record for the Coast Guard is FL). Do I need to have a current CCW for the state I live in to have a Florida and/or Utah Permit? What if before I depart NC, I get a FL non-resident and then move to PA, my NC is no longer valid and PA is reciprocal with Florida.
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September 25th, 2008 12:28 AM
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September 25th, 2008 09:02 AM
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No--or none (well, mostly none) of us in California would have permits! It's straightforward applying for non-res CCW permits in Utah and Florida. I have both.
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September 25th, 2008 09:04 AM
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You do not have to have a current CCW permit in your state of residence to be issued a Florida CWFL.
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September 25th, 2008 09:07 AM
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same here - I wouldn't have my utah if i had to have a resident permit in MD first
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September 25th, 2008 10:02 AM
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Since FL is your home of record you should still qualify for a resident license. If so go ahead and get it, there are some states that do not recognize another states non-resident license. Even if not able to get a FL resident, go ahead and get a FL non-resident. What harm can it do to be proactive?
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September 25th, 2008 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by
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there are some states that do not recognize another states non-resident license
This is an important point--Colorado, for example. I read recently that this could be a growing trend.
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September 25th, 2008 10:07 AM
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Get your home state's license from Florida. As already stated it'll be good in more states than a nonresident license. Michigan is an example as not accepting nonresident licenses.
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September 25th, 2008 12:46 PM
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Utah does not require you to have your home state CCW permit to apply for a Utah permit. There has been talk in Utah about stopping the non-resident permit though. It's been on the news a time or two over recent months. Not sure if currently issued permits will be grandfathered or not or even if they will discontinue nonres permits. It's all still up in the air right now.
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September 25th, 2008 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Utah does not require you to have your home state CCW permit to apply for a Utah permit. There has been talk in Utah about stopping the non-resident permit though. It's been on the news a time or two over recent months. Not sure if currently issued permits will be grandfathered or not or even if they will discontinue nonres permits. It's all still up in the air right now.
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Those people promoting the termination are stupid. I am going to guess that the majority of the Utah nonresident permit holders will not even set foot on Utah soil. We've all been fingerprinted and checked out anyway. Most got the permit because of the price and the wide state recognition and reciprocity that goes along with it. It's a great permit.
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September 25th, 2008 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Those people promoting the termination are stupid. I am going to guess that the majority of the Utah nonresident permit holders will not even set foot on Utah soil. We've all been fingerprinted and checked out anyway. Most got the permit because of the price and the wide state recognition and reciprocity that goes along with it. It's a great permit.
You hit the nail on the head, your statement above is one of the reasons Utah is considering a permit process change. Read the link:
Deseret News | Utah's concealed-weapons permit law may change
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September 25th, 2008 04:24 PM
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To expound on the OP question, what if it's reversed? Does anyone know... If I change my residency from FL to NC, yet keep my FL CCL, will there be any issue with acquiring a NC CCL in addition to my Florida permit? Is it even necessary?
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September 26th, 2008 10:49 AM
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As far as I understand what everyone is saying. If I let my NC expire, I can get a FL CCW and will not have an issue because Florida has reciprocity with NC..unless of course NC requires me to have their permit if I live in their state?
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September 26th, 2008 12:08 PM
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One important side note to this - Florida does not grant reciprocity to any non-resident permits.
So if you have a Utah permit, but live elsewhere, you cannot carry in Florida under your Utah permit (as an example).
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September 26th, 2008 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
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To expound on the OP question, what if it's reversed? Does anyone know... If I change my residency from FL to NC, yet keep my FL CCL, will there be any issue with acquiring a NC CCL in addition to my Florida permit? Is it even necessary?
I would think that NC would require you to have a NC CCW if you are going to be a resident there. Of course, the address on your Florida CWP will have to change. That's no big deal.
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September 26th, 2008 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by
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One important side note to this - Florida does not grant reciprocity to any non-resident permits.
So if you have a Utah permit, but live elsewhere, you cannot carry in Florida under your Utah permit (as an example).
Matt
It is not really called a FL 'non-resident' permit...no such thing, just a FL permit with your home address on it.
No, FL does not recognize non-resident permits, except if you are a non-resident of FL...and have a FL permit...you're good to go down here...clear?
Yep, it's confusing...but it is worth getting a FL permit if you live in another state. There are about 3 states that would not recognize your permit from FL if you did not live in FL, :vs: if you lived in FL...KS, CO, and MI.
Be sure to double check carry laws of the states you may try to carry in...
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