This is a discussion on Not so friendly fellow CC'er encounter... within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by retsupt99 I just said it a few minutes before...You can't fix stupid! What you mentioned to this guy was not out of ...
"Just getting a concealed carry permit means you haven't commited a crime yet. CCP holders commit crimes." Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, quoted on Fox & Friends, 8 Jul, 2008
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If you, or anybody for that matter, catches me "printing" I would like it discreetly brought to my attention.
I've been "printing" a little the past couple days, but that's because I'm using an OWB Paddle Holster and don't really care if I "print". Most days I do care.
This guy sounds like a jerk that won't have his permit for long.
Mr. Short Fuse cannot distinguish between friend and foe? He's going to have a rough time, in the future. That gun he's strapped on won't help.
svinfinity45 Yes I believe in CT you can be arrested for Breach of Peace.
I also live in CT, I would be happy if You let me know. I would not want to get arrested and lose the permit.
It sounds like he didn't have a permit!
He stated he went to a class, but didn't own up to actually having the
permit, did he? I think his loud reaction was he way of diverting the
The Second Amendment is NOT about hunting!
To be honest with you, it was really none of your business if he was printing or not. CT is a state in which it is legal to open carry with a permit. Case in point. I was standing at a Jack in the Box counter in Washington State with my .45 in a belt slide holster. A gentlemen behind me says, excuse me, shouldn't that be concealed? I just answered his question matter of factly, one word, "no". He says to me with, what I perceived as a condenscending tone, "Well I choose to carry mine concealed". I just remained silent at that.
How a person chooses to legally carry their gun is their business not yours. And I dare say it is really not your business to determine if they are carrying legally or not, it is only your business to determine if they are a threat to you.
Yes, his actions were totally out of line, I would have replied to you at first politely that I wasn't attempting to conceal. Then if you would have played holier than thou like I felt the guy did with me, I would have just ignored you.
Brandishing and disturbing the peace and all that is really only prosecutable if the gun leaves it's holster.
Since you were already in a conversation with this guy, I may have asked " So what are you carrying"? I would not have asked about the permit.
I saw a guy and his significant other at Walmart and this guy was printing like you said. His t-shirt looked like it was shrink wrapped around his gun. I didn't say anything because this guy and his woman HAD to know how bad it printed. I assume he dressed himself.
It's the same with your encounter. It's not like the guy had on a loose shirt and it came up and exposed his gun. The guy got dressed and put on a tight shirt. Whos fault is that?
I'm not going to tell a grown adult that purposely put on a tight shirt over their gun and walked out the door that he ( or she ) is printing. Let them learn the hard way. It would be different if he was accidentally printing.
This guy was obviously a jerk.
That should be a madatory part of the training that you learn how to properly conceal a handgun and what the best options are. I am sure sooner or later he will experience a paradigm shift that causes him to see the error of his ways. Then again he may just be an idiot, people like that give us a bad rap and make the brady bunch happy.
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In CT we had the guy at the Chillis that got in all kinds of trouble because someone saw his gun. This guy diserves to get nabed. A permit does not equal free pass. You still have to be smart.
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Yea thats a good point that he could have done it on purpose. Maybe he just grabbed his shirt and pulled it out after I told him just to make me happy? Not really sure. I live in the pretty small town and didn't recognize him and have never seen him before, guess he was just an out of towner. Did have CT plates though. Does anyone else have the habit of checking the plates of anyone coming toward you from their car or any car that looks suspicious thats near you when you walk away from your car in say a parking garage? I do it all the time I don't know why. By checking I mean checking what state, and remembering short term the plate numbers/letters.
If it had been me I would have thanked you, corrected the problem, and then asked you what you carry.
BTW: This is why I want Open Carry in Florida, I try to stay concealed, but if I reach for something on a high shelf, getting out of my car and checking my shirt, just general wind blowing, I do not want charges for Brandishing because a Anti Gun Paranoid sees me.
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