Crazy old guy at the range, or is he on to something?
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You are betting your life....
October 10th, 2008 12:35 AM
If you draw, mean it.
You are betting your life.
October 10th, 2008 12:47 AM
I agree completely.
Originally Posted by GBS
If lethal force is not required, don't clear leather.
If lethal force IS required, there will not be time for intimidation or warning shots.
If I have a reason to be drawing a gun, I'm shooting and I'm shooting until the threat is not a threat anymore. Period. The only "warning" a BG is going to get from me is the click of my safety selector moving down.
At the same time, if the BG ceases to be a threat as soon as I clear leather, great, everyone gets to go home that day. But I'm never going to count on that effect or attempt to use it to my advantage.
To summarize: The guy at the range is, indeed, crazy, and filling your chamber with anything except a defensive round is asking for trouble.
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October 10th, 2008 12:48 AM
That comes from a long time ago. The way it worked was:
1. "Stop or I'll shoot!"
2. A warning shot if fleeing felon does not stop.
3. Finally one carefully aimed .38 special between the shoulder blades.
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October 10th, 2008 12:49 AM
October 10th, 2008 12:54 AM
Yup... couldn't have said it better!
Originally Posted by rocky
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
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judgement to keep himself out of situations that would require a display of his
October 10th, 2008 01:49 AM
Did you mean old or senile?
Stay armed...never shoot blanks...stay safe!
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October 10th, 2008 03:26 AM
The guy's age doesn't enter in to it, his thinking has probably always been flawed. Probably too much TV, Too much spare time to imagine things and a serious lack of reality in his life.
Incredibly stupid and dangerous advice.
No time for such foolishness in a real life encounter!
IMHO of course, won't be an "old guy" for at least another 70 years or so but that's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it!
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October 10th, 2008 03:41 AM
Back in the day I knew an old cop that kept the first cylinder free of a bullet in his six shooter. Thus he had five rounds and had to fire twice to get the first round off. It was actually a good habit to have, and I believe it saved his life one night when someone got his gun away from him.
As far as doing it in an Autoloader, no, I don't think I would, for the reasons already stated. From a legal standpoint you are either justified in using deadly force, or not, and I wouldn't want to take the chance on the blank not cycling the slide. Make no mistake about it, if you pull out a gun and fire a round, blank or not, it will be viewed as a Use of Deadly Force incident by your local constabulary.
It's a good practice, in theory, but it's real life implementation leaves a lot to be desired, IMHO. If I was carrying a Revolver unconcealed I might give the practice some consideration, but even then I doubt I'd do it.
October 10th, 2008 06:57 AM
The guy is delusional. I don't know about recoil operated weapons, but in gas operated weapons, if you want to fire blanks, you need a BFA (Blank Firing Adaptor). I would think that mods would have to be done to recoil operated weapons as well since the round going out the muzzle causes enough recoil to run the slide back and to recock the weapon.
In any case, a warning shot is a crock of crap. If you are in a situation where you need to pull your weapon, it's a last resort, and a blank just wastes time and effort.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"
October 10th, 2008 07:00 AM
If I have to pull my weapon ........there will be no warning shots........more likely to be a leak somewhere....in some body.
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October 10th, 2008 07:57 AM
Warning shot = live round COM.
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October 10th, 2008 09:44 AM
Originally Posted by MitchellCT
October 10th, 2008 01:33 PM
Now that is funny! It's almost reportable to the moderators. Oops... you are one!
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October 10th, 2008 01:43 PM
I am one of those old people at the range... and I say he is crazy... or eccentric... or both.
Other than borrowing our stuff at the range don't listen to us. We have inhaled too much Lead over the years.
October 10th, 2008 01:52 PM
Now that's funny!!!!
Originally Posted by MitchellCT
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