Decision speed and criticality

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    Decision speed and criticality

    Any folks here remember early days of puter programming?

    If, then, else. Go sub. - etc?

    When we are faced with an encounter I feel I can draw parallels - in as much as our assessment must first off be rapid, probably in the extreme - and also probably utilize such simple computations as mentioned above.

    We see potential threat - and ask ourselves ''If'' the threat is indeed threat, and enough to require a response.

    Should that be affirmative ''then'' we must decide an action, ''else'' consequences, perhaps.

    If we get this far then ''Go sub'' - which will take us to sub routines including - get hell outa Dodge. Take immediate cover. Draw and fire.. etc. many possible sub routines.

    Bottom line tho which always provides me much food for thought - is, will there be enough time?. We can all say - ''yeah well, training will take over''. So it might, in a classic cut'n'dried case where there is a gun all but in our face but - not all situations need be that clear cut.

    Concern is over making right decision, fast .... seeing as making the wrong one could mean our demise or ending up in jail - two total extremes. I have mentioned around this subject before so apolgies it ain't new, just another slant.

    Thinking time (computing time!) is a luxury that may not be there - all I know is I sure would want to make the right decision but sometimes wonder ............
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    You can think it though a lot but still you will never know for sure what youll do or how you will react.

    We all hope we make the right decision

    Not sure what you could do to try to speed up you though process other than thinking things though from time to tima nd taking FOF course's

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    Sadly, many defensive shooters will make their mental decisions far quicker than they can gain real access to their carry firearm.

    Oftentimes there is a serious "lag time" between having made the correct decision to act & being physically able to.

    That always requires work & at least weekly realistic practice.

    Many carry folks are moderately or severely handicapped by their chosen mode of primary carry.

    I know this for a fact and that it's true but, it's not my life obligation to harp on it too much.

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    Many carry folks are moderately or severely handicapped by their chosen mode of primary carry.
    Qk - do expand. Are you meaning their chosen platform? Or their rig? Both? Or just maybe their lack of suitable training etc.

    I sure know some cases where both platform and carry mode are far from ideal!
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    i would say there Rig and there trainging

    Some people Bury there gun so deep only There Proctoligst(sp) knows its there

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    only their Proctologist knows its there
    Bwhahaha - bad as that eh? LOL

    Reminds me - today I made a comment to my wife re my step son - who was being somewhat anal about something - ''If he got his head outa his a$$ he might be surprised that daylight is not injurious to health''!!!
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    Had a guy tell me he carrys one by his um Tool figures bad guy would never know its there .. i figure you will never get the gun out

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    So. . . . When she ask, "Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?" He'lll just smile and say, "Its a gun."

    Hmmmmmm. . . .

    mm
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    P95Carry,

    Re: Your first post in this thread.

    Old enough? My first 'puter ran on TrisDos, Rat-Shack's proprietary version of DOS.

    The older I get, the more I seem have reduced my decision making process to a simpler, almost "binary" form. Note my new "sig."

    I do not spend much time second-guessing myself any more, nor do I worry about how I might act. As long as I'm around to give an after-action report, its all good.

    And so far, so good.

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    "Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?"
    Mike - my answer - ''yep it's a gun and, - I am glad to see you'' LOL!

    As I get ever older I wonder - shall I stay binary or go hex! Yes indeed - if we can give an after-action report that has to be good, but I still worry as to whether that might be from some jail somewhere!! if I got things wrong!

    DOS - yep - on that at early stages but hey - what about Basic and QBasic - I was diggin' back to that stuff - IIRC Commodore ''Pet'' 64 and that kinda primitive gear!

    I even started boning up on machine code way (way) back - powerful but got tired of the effort LOL!
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    P95:

    You bring up a great question, however I believe you must:
    - Master and practice the fundamentals & execute them.
    - Develop a combative mindset.
    - Train under stress. Mindset.
    - Develop or have a plan, are you prepared to act? You must know in your mind what you are willing to do if the situtation presents.

    This is a brief overview. CCW is an important decision, more than carrying a weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    Any folks here remember early days of puter programming?
    Heh...fortran and cobol on punch cards? Pascal was the death of me.

    But I still remember algorithms and flow charts...and to this day they aid me in everything from engineering calcs to dark parking lots.
    It seems to be the best way to describe the way I think, so I latched right on to what you are saying.

    Many of those simple computations we do subconciously...I think threat assesment and response is something we do on many levels...past experience, training, general condition, specific immediate situation...of everything that comes into play I think the majority of it is subconcious.

    And I think that's a good thing...all the if/thens and branches and subroutines happen while we observe and act. What some might call an emotional or gut reaction is actually a reasoned response.

    I can't seem to describe exactly what I'm thinking, but maybe that gives an idea.

    Must be the season...

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    LOAD "CCWSCENARIOS",8,1

    10 A$=0
    20 PRINT"THE C64 WAS COOL, AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE IN STORAGE"
    30 A$=A$ +1
    40 IF A$=20 THEN GOTO 60
    50 GOTO 20
    60 END


    RUN

    THE C64 WAS COOL, AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE IN STORAGE
    THE C64 WAS COOL, AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE IN STORAGE
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    THE C64 WAS COOL, AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE IN STORAGE
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    THE C64 WAS COOL, AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE IN STORAGE
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    THE C64 WAS COOL, AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE IN STORAGE
    THE C64 WAS COOL, AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE IN STORAGE


    Btw P95, good thread.

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    Bryan - LOL! Nice one!!
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    QK, I am with 95 please expand on your position sir...
    Listen, Think and React.....Nuff Said.....

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