Stolen magazines during oil change
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October 15th, 2008 12:34 AM
October 15th, 2008 08:12 AM
Whoa--my bad. The reg is an installation reg. Here's an excerpt:
a. Firearms may be transported onto, through, and/or on
the installation only for the following reasons:
(6) En route to an off post location."
This is exactly what I have been doing, however, I have come up with a better solution. My wife works between the post and the stepdaughter's house and does NOT drive through the post to get to work. She could carry my CCW legally through the post, though. The remaining issue, as I see it, is one of 'storage', which isn't dealt with at all in reference to someone in my situation who needs his CCW upon exit from another gate. My CCW class instructor taught--and continues to tell me--"I don't believe you will be in any trouble what so ever if you are transporting an unloaded firearm on and off the installation." He doesn't deal with the 'storage' issue either, which I have just discovered that it may all boil down to in the end.
The obvious solution is, if I am ever stopped and searched anywhere but on a random search at the gate, that I am enroute off post and stopped briefly at my office, the PX, etc., only briefly, which is also specifically ALLOWED in that reg.
But rather than risk--no, lie--about the fact that I would be 'storing' a weapon in my car all day while at work, now that I have discovered that 'storage' is the real problem, I have arrived at work today WITHOUT a 'stored' pistol in my trunk. My other problem is now solved too, as far as finding a good place to put my CCW in my IWB holster. That place is now determined, for better or worse, to be at my wife's Jeep in the courthouse parking lot. I'm thinking about getting with the Police Chief, whom my wife knows (she's the Mayor's Secretary) and letting him know my plan for parking lot packing. Don't know if this is a good idea or not, though.
Just as soon as I post this message I'm also ordering a large vehicle safe--thanks all for the safe links!
And finally, if all this resolution isn't enough, I HAVE found my 'lost' magazines. In trying to keep stuff out of view of the grandkids last week, I placed those two magazines into a jacket pocket that was in the trunk.
Now everything's peachy...except that I'm back to the 'ol stepdaughter/drug dealer problem...
October 15th, 2008 08:23 AM
IMHO your step daughter needs help, "intervention". If she doesn't want help to get off the drugs, and get out of the situation she is living in, I would try to get coustody of the kids. She is going to lose them sooner or later. If you had costody of the kids, or if she was no longer in the situation she is now in, most of your problems in this area would be solved. No more chance of you getting caught on base with a weapon. You have a real problem, and I wish you the best of luck with it. It won't get any eaiser till things get better.
Originally Posted by MP45CDE
Y'all be safe now, ya hear!
October 15th, 2008 09:05 AM
Agreed. We're way ahead of you, though. Legally, we cannot get the kids away from her. If we try and don't have the case locked up tight, she'll bolt with the kids--like she did once before. She left the state and we couldn't find her. Heck--even if we DID have a case locked up tight against her, she still might win. I see this problem like this: She has those kids illegally because of the life she lives--the laws that allow kids to be removed from their mothers are specifically intended for situations like this. But we cannot legally get them away from her because she has not been 'busted' yet. The law is working both for and against us...actually, the law, in essence, is NOT working, is it! Yes--I have looked into trying to discover a situation where a bust could be facilitated, but that then endangers everyone else in my family, not to mention that if I'm in danger I could wind up dead and unavailable to the rest of my family as the main provider. Not to mention the fact that if my wife found out my family would be destroyed in a divorce. There seems to be no way out of this mess...so we're putting it in God's hands (we've already had our hands in this mess for quite some time trying to fix things until now--and we have run out of ideas), which is where we should have put it much sooner anyway. This translates into doing things like NOT buying her a car until/unless she stops sceeming and lieing, NOT forcing or strong-arming her into doing the right thing for her kids, letting her screw up, etc.--basically, doing what the Bible says to do rather than stepping in and enabling her to continue manipulating life for the sake of the 'freedom' she says is hers, that she thinks she wants and needs. *She doesn't see that seeking her 'freedom' is hurting herself, her kids, her family, and any real friends she may have--and that her actions could kill her or her kids or other family members.
Originally Posted by carver
October 15th, 2008 01:41 PM
In my experience, posession of ammo is subject to base policy. At my current base, (an air guard base) any ammo is secured in the weapons vault until the owner leaves the installation. To my recollection, on active duty bases, you can have ammo in your residence, just no firearms. I'm 100% positive you cannot have ammo or firearms in the dorms, and about 85% that you can only have ammo in base housing. I can remember many a time when we checked a base housing resident's privately owned weapon into the armory for storage.
Originally Posted by archer51
October 15th, 2008 02:05 PM
My boss had a .45 stolen out of his truck at the stereo shop he got all his work done at. He noticed it about a week after and reported it stolen. I went by the shop to ask about it and they all mentioned one ex-employee. The guy quit that same day the truck was in there. A week later the handgun was found on the guy after a convenience store robbery. That was 2 years ago...he still hasn't gotten it back
When I was stationed in Arizona, a few of the soldiers living on base went to the Provost Marshal and Base Commander for approval to keep their weapons in their house. The main reason was travel off post, but also the chance of wild animals in their yards (pretty common). Provost disagreed...3 Star General agreed. They got approval but were subject to spot checks by the MPs.
The Armory was way out of the way to check your weapon in or out in relation to the housing area, and that presented a problem with trying to transport it off post. You had to drive right thru the middle of base in between the schools and past the PX to get there.
"carrying a gun is a lot lighter than carrying a cop in your pocket" -MrTwice99
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