Great experience with TSA agent

Great experience with TSA agent

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    Great experience with TSA agent

    I flew out of Seattle this week -- with my 1911 in my bag, of course. My experience with the TSA agents was very easy, and we had a good conversation that had some "nuggets" that are educational.

    I stepped into the line for agent assistance, since when I checked in at the kiosk it asked if I was carrying any "restricted" items. As usual, when the agent asked how she could help, I explained that my luggage needed "special handling." They usually understand, but this time I had to say I had a firearm to declare. She seemed OK with this, and sent me to the screening area.

    If you fly much, you know that every airport deals with firearms a bit differently. In Seattle, they usually have me open my bag, but once the agent just x-rayed the bag and called it good. This time, they invited me into their screened area and had me open the bag and show them the locked case. They also wanted the case opened, but didn't want to check the chamber. I usually put a long zip-tie through the barrel, but I was out for this trip. They did swab the handles of the bag for explosive residue -- Seattle is the only place I have seen them do this.

    I use a Secure-It safe that I cable to the frame of the bag. The TSA agent had never seen this before, and thought it was a great idea. "I like it when a professional comes through," was his comment. He explained that he has people come in with a case in the bag but no lock on the outside!

    We were about done, and I had zipped the suitcase closed and locked it (TSA approved lock) when I noticed that the ticket agent hadn't tagged the bag to my destination. One of the TSA agents escorted me back to the counter so I didn't have to go through the check again. When we got there, the ticket agent said, "I know what's wrong -- you're flying armed, right?" Nope. We made sure the destination tag was correct -- he understood that I didn't want my bag going to D.C. or New York!

    While we were conversing, he asked if I flew a lot with a gun, and I explained that if I could legally carry at my destination, my gun goes with me. He said that TSA strictly forbids agents from taking their guns with them if they are flying for the agency -- he just got back from three months in Barrow, Alaska where he was unarmed the whole time while fishing for salmon with bears all around. I suggested he send his gun to a FFL next time.

    All around, a great experience. Nice to deal with an agent that understands guns and the right to be armed!


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    Quote Originally Posted by C Paul Lincoln View Post
    ... he just got back from three months in Barrow, Alaska where he was unarmed the whole time while fishing for salmon with bears all around. I suggested he send his gun to a FFL next time.

    All around, a great experience. Nice to deal with an agent that understands guns and the right to be armed!
    May not be relevant but if someone is travelling somewhere they can mail their own gun to themselves to be opened by them.
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    Knowledgeable and friendly...are you sure that this was a government worker?

    Glad you had such a great experience.
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    I fly 3-5 times per week, every week. I encounter TSA pesonnel in every region of the country. From my experience I would have to say that the experience you related here is the vast exception to the quality of service provided by TSA. Consider yourself fortunate and don't expect this the next time you fly.

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    I fly commercial (Delta-free for me) and I never had a problem with my Glock and my wife S&W.
    The counter agent is sometimes a bit shocked when I tell her I have 2 handguns that I need to declare and I want the red tag. The look on the other passengers is ... priceless
    Out of PBI mostly, to PHX, ATL ...
    I always found the TSA people courteous and professional.
    Sometimes we talk about firearms or other and other times it is strictly business.
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    It applies to a lot of situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C Paul Lincoln View Post
    he just got back from three months in Barrow, Alaska where he was unarmed the whole time while fishing for salmon with bears all around.
    He had nothing to fear, the bears in the last frontier don't like government workers, leaves a bad taste in their mouths.

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    jfl. I flew Delta a few weeks back. Norfolk VA to Atlanta GA. The Delta people were 100%. The TSA people were also 100%.

    I hope it goes this good the next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolyat63 View Post
    May not be relevant but if someone is travelling somewhere they can mail their own gun to themselves to be opened by them.
    Traveling from Alaska to Washington years ago, I did just that. When I got to the Canadian border, I replied in the affirmative when the border officer asked if I had any firearms -- "yes, ma'am. Two rifles and a shotgun." She then asked if I owned any handguns, and when I said I did she asked where they were. I told her I had shipped them ahead, and she asked if I had proof! I still wonder why I would carry around proof that I don't have something in my possession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K4Kimber View Post
    I fly 3-5 times per week, every week. I encounter TSA pesonnel in every region of the country. From my experience I would have to say that the experience you related here is the vast exception to the quality of service provided by TSA. Consider yourself fortunate and don't expect this the next time you fly.
    The smaller airports are the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerswann View Post
    He had nothing to fear, the bears in the last frontier don't like government workers, leaves a bad taste in their mouths.
    I think he should be ashamed of himself for profiling those poor bears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C Paul Lincoln View Post
    Traveling from Alaska to Washington years ago, I did just that. When I got to the Canadian border, I replied in the affirmative when the border officer asked if I had any firearms -- "yes, ma'am. Two rifles and a shotgun." She then asked if I owned any handguns, and when I said I did she asked where they were. I told her I had shipped them ahead, and she asked if I had proof! I still wonder why I would carry around proof that I don't have something in my possession.
    Stupid is as stupid does. The old axiom proof of a negative.
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    "Profiling the bears" should be put in the humor section. I about choked on my tea when I read that...Great shot!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by C Paul Lincoln View Post
    She then asked if I owned any handguns, and when I said I did she asked where they were. I told her I had shipped them ahead, and she asked if I had proof!
    Did she give you any additional trouble?
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    Quote Originally Posted by laeckcrov View Post
    Did she give you any additional trouble?
    She grilled me a bit more, and gave me the "we can search your vehicle" line. I told her she was welcome to do so, as I had nothing to hide. (I was driving a fullsize truck with a bed full of stuff, so it would have been a chore for them.) I was told to pull into the search area, where I waited for about 15 minutes before they said I could go.

    I made five round-trips from Seattle to Anchorage in so many years, and this was the only hassle I ever had. On one trip, going through the border in northeast Washington, a young border guard asked if I had any guns, and when I said yes I thought he was going to wet himself. He told me he had to inspect them, so I dug the case out from under the back seat. When I opened the case, his only comment was, "wow, nice guns" and then he said I could go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Paul Lincoln View Post
    On one trip, going through the border in northeast Washington, a young border guard asked if I had any guns, and when I said yes I thought he was going to wet himself. He told me he had to inspect them, so I dug the case out from under the back seat. When I opened the case, his only comment was, "wow, nice guns" and then he said I could go.
    I would have hoped that the border guards wouldn't be But i guess that's too much to hope for these days.
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