Tax issues and my LTCF
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October 16th, 2008 08:32 PM
Tax issues and my LTCF
I got a letter in the mail from the Maryland Comptrollers Office saying I owe $1,500 dollars in back taxes and fines from 2003 (I used to live there)
I have my W2's from that year, but the account I used to pay for the taxes that year (I think it was $100 and change) is closed and I don't have records of payment. I'm going to fight this. Could the legal battle effect my LTCF's from both PA and ME? I know how the IRS and tax people are in general... beurocratic and corrupt.
Ideas on this?
October 16th, 2008 08:32 PM
October 16th, 2008 08:39 PM
Get your records from the bank, they'll still have them.
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October 16th, 2008 09:14 PM
As AZ said, the bank will have the records of you account...cheap to get.
I'd also ask the IRS for a more detailed request...exactly what, why, and how?
Sounds like most of what you owe is from fines and interest...if you can produce a canceled check, you should be good to go!
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October 16th, 2008 09:26 PM
I doubt it will have any bearing on your LTCF.
October 16th, 2008 09:32 PM
As the others have said, the bank will still have the records on your old account.
As to your LTCF, you need to check your state regs, I know Texas will deny if you owe back taxes. Not sure about PA and ME.
Now probably wouldn't be a good time for a MD license!
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October 16th, 2008 09:49 PM
Can you be extradited from PA?
October 16th, 2008 10:47 PM
I doubt PA would care about your MD tax problems unless you were convicted of a felony or something else that would make you ineligible to carry. This sounds like a civil battle about $$.
Just for your info, the IRS has a limit to the time that they can analyze and amend your return (they generally recommend to keep your records 3 years). I looked for something similar in MD, but couldn't locate it. Here is the IRS one:
How long should I keep records?
It sounds like they claim they didn't receive payment. It either took them an awful long time to figure that out or a long time to find you. It is silly that they are worried about $100 in tax and blew it to $1500 with fees.
Step 1: Write them and request as much detailed info as you can get (including copies of the old return, date it arrived, date processed, payment receipts?)
Step 2: check your credit history to see if they have been trying to collect this debt. The 3 credit beaus are required to give you a free credit history once a year. Use ONLY:
The Federal Trade Commission's Information on Free Annual Credit Reports
Step 3: As others have said, work with your bank to find a canceled check... You may have things like a credit card statement showing you mailed your return at the post office or some other creative thing to show the date you mailed it. Be creative.
Step 4: Find a good MD tax lawyer.
October 16th, 2008 11:39 PM
My guess, since I run into this often with clients from AR, is that they don't have a record of receiving your return.
What happens is the states get records from the IRS on what you filed as far as income etc. If they dont' have a return on file for you they do a proposed assesment based on your income from the IRS. Since they don't have the return, they don't have the amount of state withholding that would have been reported on the return to offset the tax.
Step one is to contact the state and request a transcript of your 2003 tax return and as to whether it was taken from a return that was filed or if they assessed it based on IRS records.
Step two if they assessed it from IRS records is to get them a real copy of the return with a copy of the W-2 with the state withholding to offset any tax due on the return. If the place you used to file the return is out of business, I hope you have a copy of your return and W-2 saved. If not you will have to go back to your previous employer/s to get copies of the W-2's.
Step two if they did get a copy of the return, they messed up somehow. I don't know any state that would assess penalties and interest at a rate to increase it from 100 buck to 1500 over this period of time. You will still need to get a copy of your return from them so that you can take it to someone and let the figure out what they messed up when the entered it into their system.
Step three, after it is cleared up move to a state without state income tax.
I don't think that it should affect your license in another state, but I would not let it ride. Some states will issue warrants for back taxes and that ain't going to be good if that happens, that may affect your license in the future.
Good luck. Hope this helped some.
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October 16th, 2008 11:51 PM
Your post reads that your problem is with the State of Maryland, not with the IRS.
Five years later and you claim you're just finding out about this?
Did you file? W-2 statements show what was deducted. If you properly filed in 2003 you would have known whether your deductions (from your W-2) covered your tax liability or if you owed more money.
Did you get a refund?
My long experience with tax agencies is this: if you owe 'em, they come after you pretty quickly.
Five years is about the time they catch up with a skip.
Lucky for you most state agencies don't know their difference left from their right.
Work out a deal on back taxes lest they seize your bank accounts.
The majority of folks on this forum are law-abiding tax-payers (not that we agree with the amount taken or how it's spent). So, if you didnt pay what you owed, dont look for any sympathy here.
October 17th, 2008 04:15 AM
We'll luckily it's not on my credit report. I'll have to call in the morning to get this sorted out. I have my W2's and I reprinted the tax form for that year. In the letter is says they received my return, but no payment I sent it in the same envelope. It sounds like an issue on their end, not mine.
October 17th, 2008 10:20 AM
When it comes to the IRS, the issue is always on your end according to them.
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