This is a discussion on Will carry at work despite company policy within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by cwblanco If caught you risk losing your job and your CHL permit. I suppose that has to be evaluated along with the ...
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Maybe a ankle holster is in order. No bulges and easily accessable when seating in a car. Just my $.02
I am wondering what the wordage that the dealership uses. Does it say "weapons or firearms" Does it say w/f can not be stored in a employees vehicle? Locker? Does it say not on carried on persons?
If anyone is actually dumb enough to ask you what that bulge is offer to "Whip it out" but only if they promise beforehand to "Put it away."
Unless you are wearing pants far too tight for a smartcarry or a gun to large for your clothes in it this should not be a problem. Firestar, PPK and J frame have all been carried easily by me in one. I would advise wearing pants with pleats if in an office environment as it helps to break up any outline that may show.
You might want to review the 30.06 code. Because if you have been verbally told that you can not carry at work you are committing a class A misdemeanor, and run the risk of loosing your license. Or if your employee handbook states what this code section states.
TITLE 7. OFFENSES AGAINST PROPERTY
CHAPTER 30. BURGLARY AND CRIMINAL TRESPASS
Sec. 30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).
(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f).
(3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"; or
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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I've been in the auto business for over 20 years but have only carried at work within the last 2 years. I have found that the Smartcarry works the best for me. I carry a Kahr PM9. As long as the pants are 1-2 sizes larger than you normally wear, or they have the expandable waist, they conceal very well. I tend to wear the smart carry a little higher on my waist so that the bulge is behind my belt line. It also makes it easier for drawing.
Oh ya, don't forget to make a copy of the persons license before you go on the test drive and leave it with someone at the dealership. I think that if someone had intentions to do you wrong, they might think twice about it if their ID was left behind.
Here's an idea: When going on these test drives, you have to go get the car out of stock so why not run by your car to get a bottle of water, notepad, snack, etc. and pick up your gun then. That way you're outside of the 30.06 sign if it is posted at the dealership and you're protected during the test drive.
When i started my last job about six months ago, they went on and on for about 30 minutes, during oreintation, about safety and not making yourself a target for robbery.. and finished it with "but don't bring your gun to work!"... Retards.
I think you have to weigh the risks, like how much you make vs getting fired. can you easily find a job making the same amount? Are you likely to get caught?
And sometimes I think you have to choose your battles. If I am working a part time job in a high risk area, (like a pizza driver) id find a safer job instead of carrying because its not worth the legal fees or jail time if I have to protect myself.
Personally I wouldint ride with a customer on a test drive, even with a gun, its just too risky. a gun is useless if the bg has one against the back of your head telling you to flee from the police.