A local shop here is selling those grips, and I think they are pretty awesome. I can see your concern about the grips, but I couldn't see it being a big problem. If the legal system wanted to screw you, they would do so with or without cool pistol grips
Sadly, I agree that they're a liability. Kinda like wearing a t-shirt with a pot leaf on the front. It doesn't prove a thing, but certainly gives people a poor first impression, which really counts. Coincidentally, I went to a class where I used a 1911 with US Army Jump Wings engraved on the grips. I got so many "thank you for your service" comments that I was beaming. I think I'd rather go into court with mine than yours.
Definitely cool grips as stated, but I'd never use them on a carry piece. I've also seen some very cool "reaper" carved grips, but again would never use them on a carry gun
Since we're on the subject of grips, has anyone by chance seen any inlaid or engraved bullseye or crosshair 1911 grips around? Would love to have some for the target 1911 I'll be buying shortly.
I think it is much more important to explain the circumstances of why you felt you had to shoot someone. Do we all have to dress in plain vanilla outfits and carry clear grips on our guns?
A good attorney for you could explain that you like the looks of the grips or you just wanted to be different and ask the jury what does this have to do with protecting your life or the life of someone else!
If you have been in a number of shootings in a short time it MIGHT be different but I know of a popular section on a large police department involved in quite a number of shootings. All of their issued weapons are engraved with the sections logo, which is much more controversial than a picture from a major public movie! And now a major gun company has a special gun in their name! :rolleyes:
Let's also face up to the fact that not all juries are the most thinking groups of people we know. Most folks agree first impressions are important, so it's hard to assume that a jury would be any less subject to that tendency.Quote:
let's face it: if you ever have to shoot someone in self defense, it doesn't matter what grips you had, what caliber you used, or what kind of gun you own.
Having a .454 Casull named "Terminator," skull grips with crossbones named "Punisher" and a dog at home named "Killer" can't help. A solid suggestion to an unthinking jury that several indicators point to predisposition could leave them with that impression. Doesn't mean that's a large risk. Doesn't mean it'll change the facts (defensive shoot). And, it's certainly more important to be able to articulate the circumstances and facts of the defensive actions you took. Still, it's there.
When so many other options exist, IMO it just doesn't seem worthwhile to "tempt fate" as some have said.
I'll break from the ranks here, I don't like 'em. They portray an amatuer image and perhaps they are little trashy, but I dont think they would mean much officially in a trial but you never know what message it sends to a juror.
I guess its the logo I dont like. If it were a generic or one of a kind design, I'd probably like it.
As to Heimer's request. . .
I purchased my Paladin grips from Alumna Grips which also supplies Punisher grips. They will also laser etch the design of your choice within reason.
How about these grips?
We always cover this stuff in courses. There is a thing called electronic discovery. The easy explanation I give in edged weapon course is that you defend yourself with a specific model of knife. When it gets placed on property someone thinks it is a cool looking knife and "Googles" it because they are interested in maybe getting one. They find out that particular knife was designed for "knife fighting" by so and so. They bring this to the attention of the prosecutor who is running for reelection and you can guess the rest. This will be even worse in civil court.
You do your best with your selection of training, tools and tactics to minimize your exposure to these things the best you can. That means listening to that voice in the back of your head when you think something is cool but may make you look like a person you are not.
How about these? They infer lethality also, but in a patriotic sort of way...
I'd rather explain them to a jury than the death head!
See now, I like those AZ. They say something about what you have done or where you have been.