January 3rd, 2006 09:18 PM
Opinions Needed - Outdoor carry
I need a bit of advice for an upcoming project. I will be conducting an environmental survey from Tucson, AZ to the Mexican border for the next few weeks.
The area I'll be working in is known as "Cocaine Alley" and "OTM Alley" - meaning Other Than Mexican Alley - because of the large number of non-Mexican illegal aliens historically apprehended in the area. Sounds fun, huh?
In addition, there is a group known as "the Minutemen", a group of armed civilians who patrol the border trying to aprehend Illegals trying to cross the border. They take it pretty seriously too. The border patrol maintains a large presence as well.
There will be a crew of three, two males and a female, walking along the route of a proposed pipeline from Tucson to the Mexican border. I don't know which sounds more menacing - the illegals, the drug runners, or the minutemen.
My question is this: I am an Arizona Resident and have a CCW. In any case, to avoid any potential conflicts, would it be more prudent to wear my sidearm exposed or concealed? Would an exposed weapon be more likely to avoid or provoke trouble? We plan on minding our own business and hope to keep it that way. Thanks for your input.
January 3rd, 2006 09:23 PM
With all the problems lately(not sure if its same area) BP taking fire and all , I would carry a long gun if possible.
January 3rd, 2006 09:29 PM
Here is a link to info on the area, if anyone cares to take a look:
January 3rd, 2006 09:33 PM
i would go With hand gun hidden and as Rocky said, a rifle .... but in something descrete, on your back
January 3rd, 2006 09:43 PM
Handgun concealed - and make it largest and best you can manage.
Long gun is also very wise if you think you can get away with it - lever '94 slung over back is pretty innocuous looking, compared to most. Pref in .44 mag
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January 3rd, 2006 10:05 PM
Concealed!!!! in your choice of weapon! The bigger the better!!!!! like Chris said.
I would actually, in that situation and assuming that I could! would pack two of the same gun's, same caliber size, fully reliable weapons, loaded extra mag's, the whole nine. Long gun if you want and can.
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January 3rd, 2006 10:16 PM
I think I would ,If at all possible carry a rifle cabable of long range accuracy. Say .223 AR or similar. Or see about an armed escort for your work group. From the info you gave this is a bad place to try to do honest work.
January 3rd, 2006 10:57 PM
Go to the Minutemen's website and tell them about your project. You might get an escort for free.
I don't know why they get such a bad rap.
"I am a Soldier. I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr.
January 3rd, 2006 11:02 PM
If you can avoid the project, do so. If not, then a high-power rifle in semi-auto might be the ticket backed up by the highest powered handgun you can handle well and conceal. If at all possible though, avoid the area altogether and then you won't have to worry about it.
January 3rd, 2006 11:16 PM
You can't readily hide a long gun. Should be in addition to previously mentioned duplicates of rock solid handguns.
How about your coworkers? Any shoot? If so, hopefully you all can be armed. If not, then at least give them the burden of carrying extra ammo and SD gear.
Originally Posted by swilcox
Anyway, it looks like a project to avoid unless you get armed escorts all the way.
Pls. remember, people w/ nothing to lose will have no constraints on their behavior and their capacity to do harm.
January 3rd, 2006 11:19 PM
Not really a bad idea tank soldier - it's always a good thing to let the locals know what you're up to.
January 3rd, 2006 11:19 PM
I would absolutely carry concealed
No sense giving up that tactical advantage.
Just make sure that you can get to it in a big hurry.
Select your clothing around that handgun. It will be your best friend out there.
Buy fresh Best Quality Ammo.
Make certain your firearm is clean & in top working condition.
I won't say "Don't Go."
Sometimes people just gotta go where they hafta go. Dangerous or not.
Stay fully alert.
Pay attention to your surroundings.
Take logical precautions.
Your decision to carry a rifle or not...is up to you.
January 4th, 2006 12:26 AM
the minutemen aren't your enemy. Let em know your in the area, but even if you don't, they aren't going to shoot you or anything like that. At worst, they'll mistake you for an illegal, and call the BP. (Thats ALL they do, merely observe and report to the BP, like a good citzen should).
Driver carries less then $20 of remorse.
January 4th, 2006 01:35 AM
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Who are you doing this environmental survey for, that is, who are you working for?
You might want to discreetly inquire if your employer will allow firearms on this trek.
Either way, I would carry concealed.
Good luck on your project.
When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier.
January 4th, 2006 06:48 AM
That would be a nice thought but he might be in a postion he cant refuse to go.
Originally Posted by gddyup
just like i cant refuse to go down and work it Detroit .
Some times ya got to do what ya got to do like it or not
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