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    Where did it say the deputy took posession of t he gun? He simply asked to see the ccw.
    As for getting made, so what. It happens. no harm no foul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirForceShooter View Post
    Where did it say the deputy took posession of t he gun? He simply asked to see the ccw.
    As for getting made, so what. It happens. no harm no foul.

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    The op stated that the Deputy stated that he had relieved persons of their pistols for not having their permit.

    See Arkansas Code:

    5-73-315. Possession of license — Identification of licensee.

    (a) Any licensee possessing a valid license issued pursuant to this subchapter may carry a concealed handgun.

    (b) The licensee shall:

    (1) Carry the license, together with valid identification, at any time when the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun; and

    (2) Display both the license and proper identification upon demand by a law enforcement officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I would like to hope that anyone handing over their firearm would check for credentials and get a receipt. Some states require the CHL, LTCF, insert TLA for carry permit here_____ to keep the card on their person while carrying concealed. If they do not have their permit on their person while concealing, they may be in violation of the law.
    Yeah I would hope so too, but even if the guy had his badge or something I think I would feel more comfortable by calling in somebody who was on duty ya know? Just the way I feel about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AirForceShooter View Post
    Where did it say the deputy took posession of t he gun? He simply asked to see the ccw.
    As for getting made, so what. It happens. no harm no foul.

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    Um in his post he said he had taken several guns from people who didnt have their CCL on them while carrying. And since he was off duty it seems like he is checking all the time.
    Protection is a responsibility not just a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I dont think I'd be bothering people if I were off duty. The last thing I'd want is to deal with some dude and his pistol provided he wasnt doing anything horrid with it. If I end up at the grocery store on my day off, I just want to get my stuff and get out of Dodge.
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    Sounds like the off-duty didn't make too big a deal of it. Had that happened to me w/out my permit i think i would have asked to have the local PD come in to make things official. My permits goes w/ me everywhere, even when i'm not carrying. Hoping i don't run into that situation, but like said above, it happens.
    Sometimes i wonder if i'm checking to make sure i'm concealed too much. I try to be sly about it, but wonder if anyone notices me touching my right hip alot. Guess it could be interpreted as a cell phone or leatherman, especially since the barrel isn't visible in the holster if just the bottom peeks out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    There's a convenience store near my daughters house that sells not only ammo but sells guns too.
    ATF - Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms - it should be a convenience store rather than a government agency.

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    So Packer, did you ask him to see his credentials (or did he show them first) before giving him yours? I try to be a trusting guy, but would be very suspicious of anyone asking for my CCW without showing me his badge.... Then, I'd be REAL nice.

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    If I'm outside the house I'm carrying my wallet, so I know I have my permit, as well as my DL and Ret. Mil ID. As far as showing someone who tells me they are LEO my permit. First they will have to prove to me they are LEO. Badge and department issued credentials. To confiscate my weapon, they will have to call in someone who is on duty. Once an on duty LEO arrives and requests my weapon, I will hand it over and get a receipt for it.

    I wonder how long this guy has been a LEO, was he a newbee, or maybe one who loves the power trip his badge gives him? A newbee I can understand and forgive. The guy who's on the power trip, no excuses for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slabsides45 View Post
    So Packer, did you ask him to see his credentials (or did he show them first) before giving him yours? I try to be a trusting guy, but would be very suspicious of anyone asking for my CCW without showing me his badge.... Then, I'd be REAL nice.
    I love that! I'll show you mine if you show me yours first!

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    So Packer, did you ask him to see his credentials (or did he show them first) before giving him yours?
    Ditto. My CHL has my home address on it. I won't hand it over for inspection to anyone other than those authorized. (I'm not so trusting.)

    Am assuming the off-duty deputy properly identified himself.

    Did he identify himself, via badge/credentials? Or, could he have been anyone?
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    I guess I'm still paranoid about it, but I'm constantly checking to be sure my weapon is covered, even though I live in an "open carry state".
    Be careful about this; "a weapon is considered to be concealed at any time it is placed in a location as to be within reach of the person, without the person being required to make an overt act to retrieve such weapon, when such weapon is hidden from common observation." Having your gun show by mistake when concealed is not an open carry! Always have your permit on you.
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    It has been years since I retrieved something from higher than shoulder height with my strong side arm while out of the house.

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    If indeed he was a deputy (with ID), he seems to have treated you fairly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musketeer View Post
    It has been years since I retrieved something from higher than shoulder height with my strong side arm while out of the house.
    Amen! I really hate to wear a shirt as a cover garment, the wind blows it open, and you can never be sure when it might reveal that which you don't want revealed, and like you I never reach for anything that is above my head with my strong side hand. I also try to never carry anything in my strong side hand. If it's cold outside, I wear a long jacket to cover my CCW. If it's not that cold, I usually wear sweats, and a Smart Carry. Summer wear, shorts and T, with the Smart Carry. Smart Carry works for me because of the way I dress, not the other way around.
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    It has been years since I retrieved something from higher than shoulder height with my strong side arm while out of the house.
    +1

    To the OP: Get used to reaching for things with your weak hand. Also take a moment to think about what is going to happen (to your shirt) before you reach up or bend down.
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