Is there any place on earth where you can go "white"?
This is a discussion on Is there any place on earth where you can go "white"? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I live on a farm 6.5 miles from the nearest town. On a gravel road. Surrounded by cattle and grain farms. It is quite safe ...
January 5th, 2006 06:01 PM
I live on a farm 6.5 miles from the nearest town. On a gravel road. Surrounded by cattle and grain farms. It is quite safe out here. We are in a small, rural, agricultural county, very gun freindly. You can hear any car on the road 3 minutes before it arrives. I have four large dogs. Have you ever heard of guniea fowl? They make more racket that the dogs do if someone (anything really) comes on the farm. I, and all of my friends (especially the city dweelers that visit) feel very safe and contented here. In ten years we have only had one tresspasser ( a rabbit hunter ) and the law was out here fairly quickly to apprehend him.
Now, you can't say never. And I do carry while on the farm. But I feel about as safe here as I can anywhere, and with all the alarms systems available, I think I will have enough notice if something is up.
January 5th, 2006 06:01 PM
January 5th, 2006 08:05 PM
Gotta agree with P95, condition yellow as a way on living. No stress to it, just awareness.
January 5th, 2006 08:13 PM
Maybe under my bed would be alright, but I don't like the looks of those dust-bunnies!
I don't think I've been in condition white since I was 12. Not actually paranoid, just continually "situationally aware."
And I'm sure P95 is right, it does no harm to stay in condition yellow.
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January 5th, 2006 09:30 PM
Same here - only three dogs, and a wife that carries too. Plus we live in an isolated area, so that's a plus. We used to go to the beaches in Belize, but they're scary now too.
Originally Posted by havegunjoe
Your western desert "shoot off" sounds pretty good. Do you camp out overnight too?
Still working on my Condition Yellow thinking - hanging around here helps.
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January 6th, 2006 12:04 AM
Originally Posted by Aught Six
Taking a few precautions, I don't really see a problem going white.
1. You lock your doors.
2. You have a loaded gun on your person.
3. You have training and likely practice quick reaction drills.
4. If a BG was "near," it's not like you're gonna shoot him instantly, you'll still assess the situation though it may be in a split second.
5. If the BG's plan is to walk up and wax you, it's likely that he'll have his gun ready to rock and be successful before you realize, Unless of course you're that speedshooter on the video we were passing around yesterday.
So, I say relax a little. Be aware of your surroundings, but don't consider every person in view as a BG. You'll likely spot a BG from a mile away, regardless of your "color."
If anything happens, the results will be completely controlled by the Big Guy upstairs. Just hope for your sake, you know him and he likes you. (Betcha didn't know I was a gun-totin' Bible thumper!) lol
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January 6th, 2006 02:10 AM
I'll add to P95's that yellow has to become second nature, like driving down the highway. You are not constantly thinking about it but it is running in the background, observing, analyzing if everything is in place or there is something out of whack that requires yor concious attention and makes you go "oooh sh........".
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
January 6th, 2006 09:23 AM
Like many have said, sitting here at home (and to a degree in the homes of my relatives) I'm pretty relaxed. There are enough weapons either on my belt or close at hand that I can get to quickly if need be. We all recognize noises that aren't typical in our daily lives and that's enough of a warning to up the alertness level.
As Chris said, the "Spidey Sense" is an amazing thing. When out and about if anything at all seems (or feels) out of sorts, I tend to go to a minimum of "high yellow" until I can assess and identify what's causing the problem.
I've given it a lot of thought lately and I've come to suspect that "our" (CCW'ers and the like) condition white actually IS yellow to most other folks. We've just been at it long enough that it comes more naturally. That heightened state of yellow we speak of would then be, what... orange? red? to the majority of people bustling about their daily lives.
As to your apparent need for relaxation, it just takes practice. I started practicing Transcendental Meditation (TM) many years ago in college with the help of a Buddist friend of mine. It's one of the greatest skills I've ever learned and has helped me more than any doctor in living with the last ten years of chronic back pain - I can't catch flies with chopsticks or anything but I've gotten pretty good at controlling my stress levels.
January 6th, 2006 09:43 AM
It's ORANGE. Red is combat....slapping leather for real. Orange is very labor intensive and thus can't be maintained at top performance levels for very long. I go to orange when I detect a specific threat and begin to assess until I can make a definitive decision. Assess, assess, assess....then decide. THEN it's either ENGAGE or not. I actually stay in yellow 24/7/365. It's just become natural. I might go to a slightly more relaxed level of yellow, but it never truly slips away.
Originally Posted by maclean3
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January 6th, 2006 10:29 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I remember seeing those signs as I passed thru I80 going toward Ca...........LOL...........real "freindly people"
Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs
Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll
January 6th, 2006 01:51 PM
Sometimes I do. In the winter it gets too cold though for casual camping and I don't feel like breaking out the 4 seasons gear.
Originally Posted by Rock and Glock
If you have never been out to a desolate, god-forsaken piece of land and spent a few days, you should fit it into your plans. It's very theraputic.
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January 6th, 2006 05:29 PM
Well, if there was some type of annual gathering of the members on this forum and I was right in the middle of the gathering (not on the edges), I'd go condition white ... no problemo!!
January 8th, 2006 02:14 AM
January 9th, 2006 06:08 PM
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January 9th, 2006 10:32 PM
Well I haven't been there in a while. When I flew my plane, white all the way. Nobody could come within a mile without the FAA barking. Nobody could sneak up on me either ;)
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January 9th, 2006 11:54 PM
Your bedroom should qualify as somewhere you can go white. After all, you trust it enough to go ultra-white there for 8 hours a day when you sleep, right?
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