Thieves loot valuables (guns) from parked cars. Memphis TN
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Just a quote from the article:
"Nobody should leave a gun in ...
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December 1st, 2008 12:57 AM
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Thieves loot valuables (guns) from parked cars. Memphis TN
Thieves loot valuables from parked cars : Local News : Memphis Commercial Appeal
Just a quote from the article:
"Nobody should leave a gun in their car," said Scott. "That's stupid. If you're not going to have your gun with you, it's not doing you any good in the car."-MPD Maj. Joe Scott
May I point out to the good Major, and I will in an email, that his boss, the Mayor of that dreadful city he works in, the Mayor of the County the city is in and other politicians here have fought to keep our stupid "No guns in Restaurants" law in effect. We can't carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol, so we HAVE to leave them in our cars.
But now that the Republicans control the House and Senate in Tennessee we may be able to change that thank God.
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December 1st, 2008 01:07 AM
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Send him a letter with that comment. You're absolutely right, it's a stupid law. Virginia has an even more asinine law- Concealed carry is prohibited in restaurants, but open carry isn't. So, when I go into a restaurant in Virginia, I tuck in my shirt so that my XD45 in my IWB holster is visible. Makes SO much sense.
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December 1st, 2008 01:13 AM
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Yay for Jimmy Naifeh!... or not.
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December 1st, 2008 02:26 AM
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Jimmy Naifeh may be on his way out. His party no longer runs the house so we may just get rid of him and the stupid restaurant law in one fell swoop.
Keep your fingers crossed!
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December 1st, 2008 06:50 AM
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TX has the correct answer to problems like this...someone breaking into your car at home is fair game...the way it should be.
"This crime is affecting everybody," said Maj. Howell Starnes, assistant commander of the MPD's organized crime unit.
Police are simply overwhelmed by the volume of break-ins and they're frustrated by the revolving door at 201 Poplar for the people they do manage to catch.
A Memphis police campaign urges citizens to "Stow It, Don't Show It," and the Shelby County Sheriff's Office urges people to "Park Smart," but clearly many people aren't listening.
"The citizens can stop this crime today," said MPD Maj. Joe Scott. "If you don't leave anything in your car, nothing's going to be taken."
This raises the cost of living expenses for everyone, these BG dirtbags value nothing...they deserve TX justice.
The police answer to this is stop the crime by not leaving valuables in your car? What's next, don't leave valuables in your house either?
Stay armed...this crime will get worse...stay safe!
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December 1st, 2008 09:12 AM
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I am glad you're sending him a letter. As a soon to be carrier in NC, with many similar stupid laws, I can see having to leave my gun in the car on many and varied occasions due to these type of restrictions. The only alternative would be to leave it at home, therein leaving myself unarmed for the whole druation of my outing vs just the time I am in a restaurant or whatever. I do not see that as an acceptable alternative, so I know I will have to leave it in my car from time to time.
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December 1st, 2008 09:17 AM
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I agree with you TN Mike. He as well as the mayor's need a letter addressing the comment.
Pointing out the fact that current laws prohibit carry in certain places, forcing citizens to leave their firearms in their car.
Of course them being politicians and not "real people", they will probably say leave your gun at home.
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December 1st, 2008 09:23 AM
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It is not quite so cut and dried in Texas. At night, yes, burglary on your property is a leathal force event. During the day it is not, unless of course, you are in the car at the time. Here in Fort Worth it is as they describe in the article, the police are powerless. They even down-graded the crime of auto burglary so the courts wouldn't have to deal with it at such a high level.
In the article they pose the question, I paraphrase; do you want us to let murderers and robbers out of jail or car burglars? My answer, I want you to keep the robbers and car burglars in jail and I want you to give the murderers a dirt nap to free up bed space.
Without effective punishment and effective retalliation from the citizens, which they make more difficult every day, the criminals will just continue to overwhelm the law enforcement and legal system. Look for more and more crimes to be given lower and lower classification of offense (felony goes to misdomeaner).
But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...
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December 1st, 2008 09:39 AM
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I love the line:
"If you don't leave anything in your car, nothing's going to be taken."
....are they serious?!
So instead of dealing with the criminals, they're just dealing with the citizens.
I guess we should stop carrying wallets and jewelery in the event that we get mugged.
OH and don't go down alleys. Actually just don't go downtown. In fact just stay home. No wait... that's dangerous, too.
OK just kill yourself? If you aren't alive, you can't be a victim of a crime!
oh yea grave robbers... surely they'll come up with a solution to that soon, I hope!!
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December 1st, 2008 12:47 PM
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Now you see what we are all up against here in Shelby County. This place runs about as well and an engine full of sand.
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December 1st, 2008 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
ecnovaec
I love the line:
"If you don't leave anything in your car, nothing's going to be taken."
....are they serious?!
So instead of dealing with the criminals, they're just dealing with the citizens.
I guess we should stop carrying wallets and jewelery in the event that we get mugged.
OH and don't go down alleys. Actually just don't go downtown. In fact just stay home. No wait... that's dangerous, too.
OK just kill yourself? If you aren't alive, you can't be a victim of a crime!
oh yea grave robbers... surely they'll come up with a solution to that soon, I hope!!
very well said!
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December 1st, 2008 01:39 PM
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I was on vacation in Nashville about a month ago and I must say that no carry in a place that serves alcohol is stupid. I went to the Loveless cafe for Breakfast and I'll be damned if I didn't see a sign prohibiting carrying because of alcohol!
Also I'm just a country boy so walking the streets of downtown Nashville unarmed felt like the dumbest decision I have ever made. I felt like I needed to carry the most there than anywhere else I went during the whole trip. I'm not used to having panhandlers and druggies just shouting crap out at myself. I will go back to Nashville but your state needs to change some idiotic laws before I feel good about it.
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December 1st, 2008 01:45 PM
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Mike,
I will be glad when they change the law as well. I never did understand it in the first place. Then maybe I won't be so hesitant to go visit up there and have to deal with the restaurant issue.
I guess when I visit that way I could go to church in TN and out to eat in MS. Funny how the little differences in the laws of each state come into play and how you must learn them all.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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December 1st, 2008 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
ecnovaec
I love the line:
"If you don't leave anything in your car, nothing's going to be taken."
....are they serious?!
So instead of dealing with the criminals, they're just dealing with the citizens.
I guess we should stop carrying wallets and jewelery in the event that we get mugged.
OH and don't go down alleys. Actually just don't go downtown. In fact just stay home. No wait... that's dangerous, too.
OK just kill yourself? If you aren't alive, you can't be a victim of a crime!
oh yea grave robbers... surely they'll come up with a solution to that soon, I hope!!
That's right. After all, aren't we the source of the crime?
Those restaurants should be boycotted (and the restaurant owners notified as to why) and see if the loss of yours and other CCW holders business hurts them enough to complain the the mayor.
Look at what happened to gas prices when we [as a country] cut back on fuel consumption this summer.
An armed populace are called citizens.
An unarmed populace are called subjects.
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December 1st, 2008 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
ecnovaec
I love the line:
"If you don't leave anything in your car, nothing's going to be taken."
....are they serious?!
So instead of dealing with the criminals, they're just dealing with the citizens.
I guess we should stop carrying wallets and jewelery in the event that we get mugged.
OH and don't go down alleys. Actually just don't go downtown. In fact just stay home. No wait... that's dangerous, too.
OK just kill yourself? If you aren't alive, you can't be a victim of a crime!
oh yea grave robbers... surely they'll come up with a solution to that soon, I hope!!
Dead on. As everyone knows, it is those who have something because they got it the hard way (they worked for it and earned it) who are the problem.
If you would just give up your bank account, hand over your credit cards, and give your keys to some poor, deserving scumba..., er, soul, then you would no longer be part of the problem.
Okay, back in my hole now...
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