Two part post - Carrying at a tournament

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    Two part post - Carrying at a tournament

    OK, so this Saturday I am registered to be in my first Taekwondo tournament. So as a Yellow belt in a large tourney, wish me luck.

    Next is this, how can I make sure that just because I am in a room full of people who are studying a Martial Art that I am also protected by more than my cup?

    My Wife doesn' thave her CHL yet, so she can't be the designated carrier. I DON'T want to leave my gun in my bag, I'll be a little preoccupied and can't keep it with me or watch it. A COM safe in the bag would be about as effective as leaving it in the car. Smart Carry would be fun since a crotch shot is a legal point, but I bet they only take that chance one .

    How have others done this in the past, who've participated in this type of tournament? I have a feeling I'll have to leave it in the car and just have my SOG Flash II in the bag, better than nothing.
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    I'd go with the COM and SOG. BTW, you at Julian and Carol's school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    I'd go with the COM and SOG. BTW, you at Julian and Carol's school?
    I guess if it is still within reach and I have the key tied to my Gi or my Wife has the key, I could somehow manage to get to it if I needed to.

    I represent Freedom Martial Arts (Chad and Theresa Parrick). They teach Taekwondo with some Kenpo mixed in, makes for some fun classes and interesting bruises.
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    I'd leave your pistol in the car.

    You can’t carry it, and you don’t want to take the chance and leave it in your bag.

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    Basically yes. Pray for the best and hope you don't get hurt to bad. The good thing about Tae kwon do is it is more of a sport than a self defense art. As a sport you do get to wear a lot of protection so the worst that'll probably happen is you get knocked out or bang knees. The bad thing is it’s not the best choice for self defense and actually is a pretty poor choice. But anything is better than nothing. I just take the SOG. I think you'll be fine.

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    I'm not just talking out of my rear end. As a black belt in tae kwon do, I don't practice anymore but did for 12 years, with several national trophies and many state trophies. I also wrestled for 6 years. (I think wrestling is better preparations for self defense)

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    I'd say leave it in the car and get your wife her CCW asap.
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    I wouldnt carry at the tournament, or while your fighting anyway... your asking for trouble if you do.
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    I wouldn't wear it while I was fighting, so I am going to leave it in the car. The Wife has her CHL class on Dec. 20th so she won't be too far behind, as long as TX DPS is still knocking them out and not dragging them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernset View Post
    Basically yes. Pray for the best and hope you don't get hurt to bad. The good thing about Tae kwon do is it is more of a sport than a self defense art. As a sport you do get to wear a lot of protection so the worst that'll probably happen is you get knocked out or bang knees. The bad thing is itís not the best choice for self defense and actually is a pretty poor choice. But anything is better than nothing.

    p.s.
    I'm not just talking out of my rear end. As a black belt in tae kwon do, I don't practice anymore but did for 12 years, with several national trophies and many state trophies. I also wrestled for 6 years. (I think wrestling is better preparations for self defense)
    I have heard that, to be really god using TKD to defend you need to be at a Black Belt level. My main goal is to get back in to shape and have fun with the family. I am looking in to Krav Maga once I can last in a fight for more than 5 minutes, otherwise I'd die on the mat.
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    I don't think COM in the bag is as good as in the car. The bag can be easily carried away. Also, these tourneys are often at high schools, so it might be off-limits? That's just guessing, but in the bag with the wife might cause a question of a a non-permit holder in possession? Too much to worry about. Have fun and focus on the task at hand.
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    Leave the gun in the car. Too many people and tons of kids running around at those things.

    I've been teaching kempo and training boxers and kickboxers for almost 20 years. In the beginning I competed in karate and jujitsu tournaments and then kickboxed for a while. I'll warn you that you will be competing in the most dangerous class - adults with a little skill, lots of strength and enthusiasm, and very little control. Make sure you keep your hands up!

    After I quit doing tournament karate I wanted nothing to do with it. I hated the idea that someone could gain points just by getting close to you and you'd get penalized for contact. I came from the kind of school where if you wanted a point from me you'd have to come and take it, so the tournament thing just wasn't my bag. Anyway, a number of years later I had some adult yellow belt students (I don't teach kids) that wanted to try a tournament. I tried to discourage them because kempo isn't geared toward that sort of thing but they insisted. I told them the same thing I wrote above about the class they'd compete in, gave them some pointers, taught them an appropriate kata, the difference between tournament fighting and kempo, and went with them for support.

    It was going okay and they were having a good time until one of them zigged when his opponent zagged and he took a knee in the side of the face. Freak accident, hit him just right and broke his cheek, the orbit around his eye, and his jaw. The side of his face was pushed in about an inch. He was taken to the hospital by ambulance and ended up having to have reconstructive surgery and get wired back together.

    So, like I said, keep your hands up (even though it's taekwondo), and protect yourself at all times. Bad injuries don't happen often but they do happen.

    Two pointers -
    1. Remember to breath
    2. When you fight, hit first and hit really hard. They'll give you a warning but the other guy won't be too interested in getting near you after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paco View Post
    I have heard that, to be really god using TKD to defend you need to be at a Black Belt level. My main goal is to get back in to shape and have fun with the family. I am looking in to Krav Maga once I can last in a fight for more than 5 minutes, otherwise I'd die on the mat.
    Krav Maga is a good way to go. TKD will get you into shape if you want it to though. Just have fun and try your best. And yes keep those hands up!!

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    I would not expect you to be subject to a life-threatening attack at such a tournament (at least off the mat ;-) ), but I would expect that someone might go through your bag in the locker room looking for something to steal.

    So I'd suggest leaving the gun in the car, and not leaving anything in your bag that you'd be really upset to have stolen.

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