Did I just break the law?

Did I just break the law?

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    Did I just break the law?

    My wife and I were putting our Christmas decorations out in the front yard this morning. I wasn't even fully dressed, not expecting to be outside long, but before leaving the house, I slipped my Smith Airweight into my jacket, as is my habit.

    After finishing, I realized that I hadn't had my wallet with my carry permit outside with me. I didn't leave my own property, if it matters. Does anyone know if I just inadvertently violated the law?
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    More than likely not.

    Most states have provisions for private property.
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    In Florida Nope private property you can CC/OC to your hearts content. Also, in Florida has you left your property it would result in a 25 dollar ticket assuming you have a permit and did not have it on your person.
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    Since you were still on your property, I would say no. But I am not a lawyer.

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    I believe it is legal in most states as long as you are on your own property. Just like you as long as you are in your home you can carry concealed without having a permit to do so.
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    The law I do not think so. But in the DC rules yes!!! The fine is that you have to send 1 box of ammo to the first 4 replys. That means ammo for Royal63, Exactly, Archer51 and Myself. Please free to violate the rules at time you wish. You may PM us for our mailing addresses.

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    To clarify, does being on your property, in this case, mean standing within the boundary lines or does being visible from publicly accessible land come into play?

    For example, there are many things that are legal in the privacy of your own home, but doing so at an open window is a different story. I remember my CHL instructor telling about how even when he's in the shop carrying open, he tries to avoid having the firearm visible through the front door. Partly I think it is in case a ne'er do well enters from that location, but he also mentioned the questionable legality of such. Of note, it is because Texas is not open carry that it would be an issue in that scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExactlyMyPoint View Post
    Since you were still on your property, I would say no. But I am not a lawyer.

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    PA is an open carry state right? so i really wouldn't think so, but then again im no Lawyer. if your on your property shouldn't be a problem.

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    IIRC, all of the above are correct. However, due to the perceived infraction, you must send your Airweight to me immediately for feeding and appropriate care. You will be allowed to petition DC in six months to determine if it will be returned.

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    New York State is very strict on this:

    "The licensee is required to carry the license on his person at all times when carrying a handgun."

    Period. No exceptions anywhere in the law. There is no ambiguity or doubt in the way this is worded.

    Now, that said, I don't necessarily have my permit in my possession when I'm in my house, or shower, or sleeping for that matter, but I suppose that if someone wanted to really press that point of law, they might have a case.
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    Its a good thing he lives in Pa. then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideKahr View Post
    My wife and I were putting our Christmas decorations out in the front yard this morning. I wasn't even fully dressed, not expecting to be outside long, but before leaving the house, I slipped my Smith Airweight into my jacket, as is my habit.

    After finishing, I realized that I hadn't had my wallet with my carry permit outside with me. I didn't leave my own property, if it matters. Does anyone know if I just inadvertently violated the law?
    No. Open Carry is legal in PA.
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    In Texas you can open carry on your own property in front of God and everybody... as long as you are on your own property and there are no municipal ordinances that may try to trump your rights. This does NOT require any license!


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    Probably not in PA., definitely not in Michigan.
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