Poll: Should a persons' occupation determine their right to carry?

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    Poll: Should a persons' occupation determine their right to carry?

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    Anybody who thinks that a 6'2", 200lb. single guy who makes bank deposits has a greater right not to get robbed than a 5'2", 110lb. mother of three does to not get raped and murdered is an imbecile at best.

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    The only thing that matters to me is their character, specifically, whether they have demonstrated a flawed character through their actions. I believe in giving people one chance to screw the pooch, then it's over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    The only thing that matters to me is their character, specifically, whether they have demonstrated a flawed character through their actions. I believe in giving people one chance to screw the pooch, then it's over.
    I could not agree more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    The only thing that matters to me is their character, specifically, whether they have demonstrated a flawed character through their actions. I believe in giving people one chance to screw the pooch, then it's over.
    I am not sure that could have been said any better by anyone! +1
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    at first I was thinking maybe, there might be certain situations where it wouldn't be a good idea... but theni couldn't think of any situations like that. so i had to go with NO
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    I am going to use an extreme example for why maybe the employer should determine if the employee should have a right to carry. Prison guard. How many people on this forum think it would be good for all prison guards to be able to carry at work if they chose to?

    As far as the original post that this refers to, being a firefighter. I didn't get the part about the nursing home. In Texas there is nothing to prohibit someone from carrying into a nursing home, unless the home has the appropriate 30.06 signage. If they have the appropriate signage it doesn't matter what your occupation is short of a sworn peace officer, you can't carry in there regardless. So it isn't discriminating against any profession.

    Employers set policy and rules for their employees. If you don't like the rules or policies, you have two legal options in Texas. Find a new job, or obey the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    The only thing that matters to me is their character, specifically, whether they have demonstrated a flawed character through their actions. I believe in giving people one chance to screw the pooch, then it's over.
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    Well I think that no matter what my occupation is I have the right to carry.
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    The answer isn't a waiver for a specific profession. The answer is getting rid of prohibition on carry in specified places.
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    so the second amendment only depends on your job title?
    I think not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T Bone View Post
    The answer isn't a waiver for a specific profession. The answer is getting rid of prohibition on carry in specified places.
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    Would appear that we should never be restricted but there are times it may seem very impractical to be carrying and one's employer may request that you do not carry. Some of these examples may seem obsurd but such is the nature of the best:
    Scuba instructor; deep sea welder, circus performer, hangglider instructor, thearpist in a psychiatirc ward, Mentioned prison guards,
    I am sure there are others but this is as far as many as I can come up with in a short period of time. Will keep thinking on it and post if more run through my head.

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    I chose no, at least I meant to. I don't think someone's profession should dictate it as long as they are an American who has no felonies.

    In the other thread my whole intent in my comments were that certain professions would need to take a little extra care, in the example of a Firefighter, in the event they would have to disarm by entering specific places where not allowed or in the event of running in to a burning building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wareagleky View Post
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    Would appear that we should never be restricted but there are times it may seem very impractical to be carrying and one's employer may request that you do not carry. Some of these examples may seem obsurd but such is the nature of the best:
    Scuba instructor; deep sea welder, circus performer, hangglider instructor, thearpist in a psychiatirc ward, Mentioned prison guards,
    I am sure there are others but this is as far as many as I can come up with in a short period of time. Will keep thinking on it and post if more run through my head.
    Ah, but this doesn't address my point. My point (and the original post on Firefighters in the other thread) had nothing to do with an employer prohibiting carry (their right I think, we are free to find another job).

    It had to do with the Firefighters wanting to get a waiver from being prohibited by law from carrying in specific places. Granted, the OP in this thread did mention the issue of determining by profession.

    I've no problem if my scuba instructor wants to carry. Maybe he wants to demonstrate how a Glock will fire underwater*. Fine by me, as long as it's his Glock, and not mine. Hope it's fresh water.

    *Reference to quote of Deputy Marshal Sam Gerard in U.S.Marshals.
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