More than one handgun in checked luggage?

More than one handgun in checked luggage?

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    More than one handgun in checked luggage?

    My wife is scooting (by auto) to be with extended family as soon as the kids get out of school for Christmas break. I have work related responsibilities that extend through Christmas Eve. No worries. I'm flying out of Green Bay, Wisconsin on Christmas Day (on an American Airlines flight).

    I've been looking at TSA and American Airlines websites and see nothing about more than one firearm in checked luggage (i.e. main arm and back up). For clarification purposes, I am a civilian. I've never tried to transport a firearm through checked luggage before, and I want to be sure I have all my ducks in a row.

    Anybody have experience/insights on this matter?

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    Check American's website. Most say gun has to be unloaded and in a hard sided lockable case inside your suitcase. Ammo has to be in it's original box or a box made specifically for ammo. It can be in the same suitcase as the hard case. You tell the ticket taker you have an unloaded gun in the case, fill out their tag which goes in the suitcase. Someone will escort you to TSA. They may want to see it or they may just run it through the X-Ray machine. All this only takes a few extra minutes but you can't do curbside check in.
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    Respectfully, Joe, I suggest that at Christmastime, travellers show up a bit more prepared. To elaborate on your response...

    It is an especially good idea to go to the airlines' website and PRINT THREE COPIES OF THEIR REGULATIONS REGARDING TRANSPORTING YOUR FIREARM...two to give away to the employees at check in when you depart AND arrive (chances are, they won't be familiar with their own rules on this), the third for you to have on your person. Also, this link is directly from the TSA site.

    TSA: Traveling with Special Items

    It is EASY to fly with your handgun if you follow the rules. In addition to Joe's advice...

    1.) The original HARD case the gun came in. If you don't have it, go buy one.
    2.) TSA approved locks on the case (THEY WILL OPEN THE CASE). I use ordinary keyed Master locks. Also, cable lock the gun. This will make everyone comfortable that it is empty at a glance and safely immobilized.
    3.) When you approach the counter, say 'I am checking an approved, unloaded firearm'.

    You'll be golden.
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    Thanks, Scot. I did a bit more snooping on the American website and discovered specific policy that allows up to 5 pistols/revolvers per bag. I'll follow your advice about extra copies of the policy. Interestingly enough, Scot, my destination is Bluegrass Field!

    Thanks, guys!

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    I've had no problems with Rifles. It did feel odd the first time the agent asked me to show them the rifle was unloaded. I pull out a nice wood grain hunting rifle and rack the slide twice, much to the worry of the line behind me at the counter. Hard case with master locks. Easy. You are suppose to be able to move ammo in the same case but I have yet to do so.

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    1) Read, re-read and print out a few copies of the TSA rules/regs....
    2) ALSO read/print out any specific rules the airline has that may differ from TSA
    Ex: For AirTran they want the ammo in a separate piece of checked luggage.


    Follow those rules and you shouldn't have a problem. Again make sure your guns are fully unloaded and I would leave the slide locked back so that they can physically see that the gun is unloaded without you having to handle it too much/if at all. Last time I flew they mentioned that they really like that so that all the passenger has to do is unlock and open the case and they can visibly inspect the gun without them or you having to pick up or handle it.

    On your hard sided gun case....the locks HAVE to be locks to which ONLY YOU have the key to. I just picked up a couple of masterlocks that were keyed the same and that was fine. At the check-in line the counter agent will have you unlock/open the case to prove that it's unloaded. Then they'll place the orange tag either in the case or on top of it (I've seen both happen) and then you'll need to lock it.

    Now, whatever piece of checked luggage your gun case is in can have one of those TSA approved luggage locks. I used one on mine. I've also heard many people suggest using something like a COM car safe and attaching the cable to some internal part of your luggage so that they gun case couldn't be removed, another good idea I may have to try.

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    Each airline may have their own rules about how guns can be transported and if more than 1 can be transported together. That being said, I've traveled to several cowboy matches and had 1 rifle, 1 shotgun & 2 pistols all together in a single hardsided case. Checked through on both ends with no difficulty. First step is to check with your airline. TSA rules require the gun be declared at check in, unloaded and transported in a locked hardsided case, to which only you have the key or combination.

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    If they are easy to disassemble do so looks better IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogdaddy View Post
    If they are easy to disassemble do so looks better IMO
    There's lots of room in the Sig hardcase. Plenty of room to place frame and slide assembly into different compartments in the case.

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    This is also a fine time to use those locks that come with the guns. Run the cable inside the mag well and coming out the ejection port and secure the lock. When TSA opens the case (In some airports they will not bother and just scan through the X-ray) they will see that the gun is unloaded and unable to be operated thus reducing the unnecessary gun handling and reducing the time wasted in the process.
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    I fly Delta (because I don't pay); in the TSA approved case There is my G-26 and my wife's S&W .357.
    Never had a problem; actually, I enjoy telling the ticket agent in a normal voice: "I need to declare 2 guns, do you want to check that they are unloaded per regulations." The look on the other people in the line is ... priceless.
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    I flew home to AR a couple of months ago on Delta. They too have a 5 pistol limit. I took two with me, in a hard combo lock case, with magazines and ammo boxes. I placed the box inside my suitcase so I would only have to check one bag. Leaving Jacksonville, FL, the lady at the desk didn't verify either was unloaded, she just had me put the tag in the box. I really don't know if it went through any TSA guys or not since there were none around the check in counters. Then leaving AR, pretty much the same thing, only with TSA security. Their main concern was the large Chemistry textbook in my bag, not the pistos. Still no one checked them empty, maybe just looked on the X-ray machine? Overall it was a great trip firearms wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j21blackjack View Post
    Still no one checked them empty, maybe just looked on the X-ray machine?
    Can't really check the chamber with an x-ray machine unless they can turn it sideways and look down the barrel...
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    Showed up in Penn. for a flight to FT Benning. Of course one of our checked bags was a little overweight. Clearing a breaking down 3 M4's and two M9's in the check in line to meet the required weight . The ticket agent never batted an eye. A few in line were nervous with Dirty looks. No issues though. 5 Soldiers with a twitch strait home from Iraq. The kids in the line thought we were superheroes. Felt good.

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    I have never had a problem transporting guns through an airport, my only objection is having to open the case at the check in desk in front of fellow passengers. I brought this to the attention of a Continental Airlines check in girl once who told me it was for security - I replied "whose, yours, well what about mine" she looked confused until I said "I have no idea who in this line behind me is now calling a buddy at the other end and telling them to look out for the big guy with the long black hard case full of guns getting off of the 2045 arrival".

    She replied "Those sort of people don't fly with us sir".

    So there you have it BG's don't fly Continental - good to know.

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