What would you do?

What would you do?

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    What would you do?

    I manage a restaurant that closes at 1am and 2am. In a little over 3 months thieves have broken in and stolen 3 flat screen tvs and we have had 3 car break-ins, 2 in the past 2 weeks. We have off duty LEO 4 days out of the week, but now the money hungry bigwigs have decided to whittle them down to 3 days then 2! In a meeting today the GM says its now going to be one - Friday or Saturday! I flat out told him I wasnt going to close that place "naked". Repeating it several times so that he got what I meant. Its against company policy but not against the law. I see no other course of action aside from expressing our concerns for our safety on those busy nights. Ive been leaving my weapon in my bag in the office and CC at the end of the night underneath a jacket. Im thinking of CC under my dress shirt the entire time im there. I dont know. Might be time to look for other opportunities.


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    If it is to the point that you feel the need to look for something else, I would carry at least keep it in my jacket.
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    Yes it does sound like it might be time for a change of employment. In the meantime I would send a registered letter to corporate headquarters outlining your concerns over your and your other employees safety. You might mention that with your location seeming to being targeted by thieves, their business will suffer as well. Customers do not want to go somewhere that they have to be afraid leaving the location, or finding their vehicles broken into.
    I do not know if you do nightly bank deposits. If so, for your safety, they need to be stopped until arrangements have been made with the police for escort to the bank. I would not mention carrying a weapon. If you do, you can probably look to be terminated immediately.
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    Check the laws. It is legal for the owner but I'm not sure about the employees. Also use caution if you guys serve booze. I agree with archer51 about the change of employment and the registered letter to corporate.
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    I respect your courage but the thing you have to consider most is your safety. You have a family who needs a father and that must take precidence over anything else..

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    I would say that it is time to start looking.

    Even if it is not illegal, they can still fire you for violating company policy. Then you are put in the position of having to say that you were fired on future job applications, or lying on your future job applications. Neither one is a good thing.

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    If it's not illegal, I would carry...concealed is concealed...period!

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    be careful, be safe and have a spare mag!
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    If it's not illegal, I would carry...concealed is concealed...period!
    Umm... What he said!
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    I agree with others, concealed is concealed. Just be careful though, in this economy it isn't like you can turn around and have a good job the next morning should you quit or get fired.
    The larger part of self defense is self preservation, and that includes your sources of income. In other words don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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    If you are considering carry, surely DON'T be hinting that to the GM!
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    ""We have off duty LEO 4 days out of the week, but now the money hungry bigwigs have decided to whittle them down to 3 days then 2!""

    If the business heads feel it needs LEO's on duty, there is obviously a safety issue in your location (not that any location isn't a problem these days). How do they choose the days ? By the amount of sales or do they know when the BG's are busiest? Leaving a restaurant at closing is the perfect time for criminal activity. They get you before the alarms are activated, no new customers to walk in on them and usually only the manager and maybe one other employee present.

    Sounds like they are hanging you out to dry, in my opinion.

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    Find another job. The big bosses don't care if you or the other emloyees live or die.
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    I would start looking for another job but be careful because i also am a fan of concealed means concealed but i was told by my boss that if i did and used for SD that he would prosecute. Ugh only a few months and ill be out of the academy. LEA's here i come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I agree with others, concealed is concealed. Just be careful though, in this economy it isn't like you can turn around and have a good job the next morning should you quit or get fired.
    The larger part of self defense is self preservation, and that includes your sources of income. In other words don't bite the hand that feeds you.
    Sixto has said it best, tough economy = more potential threats.
    Need to be prepared for self defence while protecting income.
    While people are saying "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, ... and they will not escape. 1Th 5:3

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