A LEO's point of view
This is a discussion on A LEO's point of view within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; A friend of mine is a LEO in Chicago (SWAT) and when I asked him about concealed carry his answer was something that struck me ...
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December 21st, 2008 10:07 PM
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A LEO's point of view
A friend of mine is a LEO in Chicago (SWAT) and when I asked him about concealed carry his answer was something that struck me as very true and I hope you deem it worth sharing.
He said that his job is not to protect us from threats that MAY happen but to protect from those who are known to pose a threat and to RESPOND to threats. If he needs to respond then it is most likely to late for the victim. That is what makes a victim! Unfortunately for those living in the wonderful state of Illinois you really don't have many options for personal protection.
He also said that basically EVERY LEO he know wishes the law abiding citizen in his state had the right legalized to carry...he said it would make his job much easier and safer...I find this interesting and encouraging.
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December 21st, 2008 10:14 PM
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Sounds like he found the clue bird...he can't do it alone.
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December 21st, 2008 10:16 PM
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I've heard the same thing from every leo I've known and spoken with
"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun." --Patrick Henry
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December 21st, 2008 10:23 PM
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I know many people in LE and the ones I know all feel this same way. Thugs don't commit violent crimes in front of the police station. They need to learn that they can't commit them in our presence either.
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December 21st, 2008 10:24 PM
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That doesn't surprise me at all.
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December 21st, 2008 10:28 PM
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An honest LEO does not have to fear an honest (CCW) citizen...only the BG's need fear the honest citizen with a weapon.
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December 21st, 2008 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
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An honest LEO does not have to fear an honest (CCW) citizen...only the BG's need fear the honest citizen with a weapon.
Amen
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December 21st, 2008 10:46 PM
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Wish others would see this
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December 21st, 2008 10:59 PM
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I'm a police officer that also feels that law abiding citizens should carry. Unfortunately, I've worked with some fellas that think only the police should carry. Ya can't change everyones mind.
I must say that I also believe that ANYONE who carrys should receive some sort of training in both the use of a firearm and the retention of a firearm.
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December 21st, 2008 11:03 PM
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Always encouraging to hear LEO reiterate the truth . Maybe one day Illinois will come around to our way of thinking.

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December 21st, 2008 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Always encouraging to hear LEO reiterate the truth . Maybe one day Illinois will come around to our way of thinking.
and Wisconsin
"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun." --Patrick Henry
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December 21st, 2008 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
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He also said that basically EVERY LEO he know wishes the law abiding citizen in his state had the right legalized to carry...he said it would make his job much easier and safer...
If every single state assents to Second Amendment in affirming the right to own and bear arms, including CA, Illinois, NJ, D.C. and NY, the crime would go down steeply.
And it would save the hell of a lot of tax dollars for the particularly populated states that have to spend a huge portion of the budget on law enforcement to combat crime.
It's dumb logic for the bleeding blue states to splurge on more police resources when abolishing the unreasonable gun control laws could do the trick to give LEO relief as good citizens and police work together to wipe out crime.
Chicago would be nearly crime-free in six months after Illinois abolishes its ridiculous gun control laws, including FOID big brother licensing and handgun/concealed carry ban. Alas, Chicago/Illinois state is ruled by corrupt Tammany Hall-style politics.
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December 21st, 2008 11:38 PM
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As much as the Brady bunch tries to spin it this officer is actually pretty typical! One of the big problems is that in most jurisdictions of any size the chief is a political appointee who serves at the pleasure of the mayor/county executive what have you. Being in a position like that they are not exactly free to speak their minds. I personally know officers that have been ordered to dress in their class "A" uniform and stand at attention in front of the cameras behind politicians that were talking about stuff the officers didn't agree with. Of course they were there on a "protective detail" and were not authorized to speak to the media. But the politician was talking about law enforcement was behind him on the issue.....
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December 21st, 2008 11:44 PM
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Agreed
The responsible thing to do is to learn how to carry and when to use it. If everyone that was willing to do so actually did, then yes, aggressive crimes would significantly decrease.
The problem is that people who know they couldn't do it can't imagine that there are those of us who can.
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December 22nd, 2008 02:13 AM
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This is a great thread.....I wondered if I might pose a couple questions here though.
I agree with the carrying with training ideal, but I'm opposed to legislating that requirement, anyone with me?
Also, I've seen on another forum a lot of LEO's chastising citizens who carry, saying they're not in danger during their day, and it's not their job to do that. have any of you heard of such a thing?
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