National Park Carry - Employees Don't Have Same Rights

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    National Park Carry - Employees Don't Have Same Rights

    That's right folks, we, the non LE employees of DOI / NPS must remain

    New statements from chief rangers coming out today in response to questions of the impact of the newly enacted regulations effect on NPS employees citing 43 CFR 20.511. .

    What a stupid law / policy, whatever. The dumbest part is that I have to travel to and from work unarmed and can't leave it secured in my POV...according to interpretation by NPS. But hey, it's perfectly okay to bring it and carry all day long on my days off...duh!

    The park I work in has deer, skunk, raccoons, snakes, black widows etc. Do those count?

    20.511 Carrying of firearms.
    Employees, except those specifically
    designated to perform enforcement, po-
    lice or other official duties requiring
    the use of firearms, are prohibited from
    carrying or having in their possession
    firearms on property under the control
    of the Secretary. Employees who are
    officially stationed in parks, refuges,
    Indian reservations, other Tribal lands
    or other wilderness areas which are
    known to be inhabited by wild animals,
    are permitted, when on those lands, to
    carry and use firearms for personal
    protection as permitted by existing
    policy or as authorized by the park,
    refuge or area supervisor. Notwith-
    standing this paragraph, employees
    who are not on official duty may carry
    firearms on Departmental lands under
    the same conditions and in accordance
    with procedures and authorizations es-
    tablished for members of the general
    public.
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    It's from the Gov't. It does not have to be logical, well thought-out, have ANY reason to it, make any sense what-so-ever.


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    Today Obama put a hold on this and other things Bush pushed through at last minute, untill they can review all new policies.

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    He did not put a hold on it. It's law and it's on the books. It wasn't still on hold under review, it should have already been published in the federal register. That's some media dreamer talking as far as I'm concerned.
    "Run for your life from the man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another-their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."

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    It was in effect January 9th. They cant put a hold on it.
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    And back to the OP (there is already a post where everyone's going back and forth on whether it's under review or not).... That's a bummer - baby steps I guess. I don't understand why you couldn't have it secured unloaded in the trunk.
    "Run for your life from the man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another-their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingZ View Post
    It's from the Gov't. It does not have to be logical, well thought-out, have ANY reason to it, make any sense what-so-ever.


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    I guess your still in the same boat as all the other non leo government employees. Not much different than the vast majority of employees of large and small companies with similar policies.

    But hey, you still have all the gov perks that come along with the job.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raevan View Post
    Today Obama put a hold on this and other things Bush pushed through at last minute, untill they can review all new policies.
    It's not on hold. It went in force 09 January 2009

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