Advise on Utah CC permit application

Advise on Utah CC permit application

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    Advise on Utah CC permit application

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    I am trying to get a CCP from Utah and unfortunely have to answer yes to one of the questions on the form (...any incident in which you have used unlawful violence....).
    The arrest was in '82 and I was found not guilty in court. So I am lookin g for some advice regarding the statement I must make to document this question. Any suggestions?

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    Welcome. Just write it down and they will call you if they have questions.
    They will find out when they do your background check.
    Two guys I know had DUI's and attended a class and worked it out.
    They put the info on the form and got the UT permit without a phone call. Good Luck.

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    What were you charged with? I had a similar issue with my permit. When I tried to buy a gun my background check was denied, I appealed it, and it was overturned. No problem with the CFP however.
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    The permit application states: "Have you ever been involved in any incident in which you have used unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence?" The warrant for my arrest was ... did unlawfully and willfully assult, beat , wound and ill treat one (complaintant). I turn myself over to the police department was released that same day and was found not guilty by the court with only a restraining ordered issued.

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    by the way I neither assaulted, beat, wound or ill treat (unless you consider a few of mildly vulgar expletives) the complainant she was just pissed off I was leaving her......

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    You may want to get a court record showing arrest and disposition of the case to send in with application,that way they have proof and it won't delay your application
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    Be honest. Attach an additional sheet explaining your circumstance and submit. Chances are, as long as you have'nt had any problems since then, you will be fine. They look for repeat offenses and those are frowned upon.
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    Thanks everyone, unfortunately all the court records were destroyed. They only keep the last 20 years. I guess I will make the statement with the details and my explaination and hope for the best. I'll let you know in 60 or so days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45caluser View Post
    Thanks everyone, unfortunately all the court records were destroyed. They only keep the last 20 years. I guess I will make the statement with the details and my explaination and hope for the best. I'll let you know in 60 or so days.
    I wouldnt worry too much about it seeing as you were found not guilty.
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    I don't know, seems to be you did not use unlawful violence because you were found not guilty. Had you been found guilty, then you did use unlawful violence. I don't know that I would put anything on the form if I were found not guilty, basically saying that I was lawful. Up to you though. You can always say you were arrested and found not guilty. Should be the end of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45caluser View Post
    The permit application states: "Have you ever been involved in any incident in which you have used unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence?" The warrant for my arrest was ... did unlawfully and willfully assult, beat , wound and ill treat one (complaintant). I turn myself over to the police department was released that same day and was found not guilty by the court with only a restraining ordered issued.
    If you were found not guilty by the court than IMO you did not use unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireman836 View Post
    If you were found not guilty by the court than IMO you did not use unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence.
    That's my thought also, but IANAL.

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    As I see it you were NOT Guilty....... I don't see a problem for you.

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    Not guilty!!!

    The permit application states: "Have you ever been involved in any incident in which you have used unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence?"

    If you were found NOT GUILTY, then you Did NOT use unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence.

    Also, if you can't get a copy of the court proceedings, neither can they. No criminal record means a NO answer on the form.

    My .02

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    If all the court records were "destroyed" I wouldn't say anything. 1st you weren't conviced and IF they were destroyed they wouldn't have any record any how. I would call the court house or the arresting agency and see if they have a police report on it. They have to tell you its freedom of information.

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