Ultimate CCW? Planning too.

Ultimate CCW? Planning too.

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    Ultimate CCW? Planning too.

    We most of the time think of what ''we'' might do - as a singularity. Probably the case most of the time.

    I was thinking tho - of the awesome potential of two CCW's!!!

    It might be one of us with wife who carries - or just two guys out together both carrying. Imagine - double scanning, and if something did go down - double reaction!

    Much earlier chance of escaping a situation tho too - two people can cover 360 way better than one. Could well be the bonus we'd all like, I would.

    However - if this was the case when something went down - how might it work out - unless a plan? So - well worth I think with wife, discussing a plan of sorts - maybe take a center line and split equally left and right, if multiple aggressors - if only one then end of story (hopefully)!!

    If tho too - we were with a buddy - both carrying - perhaps just worth a quick review of what might be done best? In case. Before setting out. AO would affect some aspects too.

    Might be argued that a major threat receives most attention but if a second or third is close to being as much of a threat - why waste resources on duplication!. May not be so easy to implement but - always strikes me some plan is better than none - even our own, not that we can foresee too much at all in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    Humor me - late evening rambling - you should be used to it by now
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    My plan is to tell my buddy to go in first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregarat
    My plan is to tell my buddy to go in first!
    Wow! What a buddy!!

    Chris, the best thing I learned about this very kind of situation I learned at Thunder Ranch during the Team Tactics 3 day course.

    The course helps you to know what you and your buddy should be doing and how to do it efficiently with out shooting each other.

    This is as it is posted on the website:

    This format is geared for the two-person format. This course is for either law enforcement officers or same family members to acquire skills in the use of tactics and firearms together to resolve confrontational environments. Strong emphasis is placed on safety and safe handling of firearms in close confines and restricted space environments. Topics include but are not limited to cover fire, movement and fire, and response to multiple threats. Handgun format.
    Nominal 800 rounds of ammunition.


    This is an excellent course. Most everyone here knows of Clint Smith and his no BS approach to real street situations and real world training. I highly recommend it.
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    Wink

    Clint Smith ~ Good Teacher.

    BTW: We should always try to take an ultra left wing liberal with us whenever we are about to enter into a potential life threatening situation.
    While the Bad Guy is occupied answering questions about his early childhood and if he has ever been molested or abused (or not) as a small child...we can more easily take him out.
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    The only friends we are ever out on the town with is my buddy who is a PA State Trooper and his wife, so he is also always carrying. We never dicuss what we would do exactly, but I think if something went down, we could read each other's moves and react accordingly.

    He carries a Smith & Wesson .357 Airlight as his off duty gun.
    "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. For when you look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."

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    Very rarely do i head out to do something with another ccw person just not many people i know carry

    That said when me and my uncle go and do stuff we dont have a set plan of tactics just figure to roll with the flow

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    I'm lucky. My wife carries her Kahr everywhere we go together and everywhere we go apart. It took her a little bit to come around to carrying when she was with me, but I finally talked her into seeing the light. She use to tell me that she "didn't need to carry it since I had mine with me.." I asked her what she thought might happen if the SHTF and I went down landing on top of my handgun. "Think you could roll my ass over and get to it before whatever got me is getting you?" The light bulb that went off over her head almost blinded me!

    So now she carries everywhere we go. We have had brief discussions of "What ifs" but she has not yet reached the level of tactical awareness that I have. I make it a point to think through certain situations when I'm just out and about or sitting around at home. She's not quite there yet but I'll have her whipped into shape yet!
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    I have practiced team tactics with a friend. He has yet to get his CCW , but is big into shooting like me. Most cases I think taking cover and threat assesment/engagment will be similar to what the Marines refer to as "the fog of war" unless folks have extensively trained together.

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    I know several people with Michigan permits, but to my knowledge, they rarely carry. Seems it's too "inconvenient" most of the time. That's their decision though, so don't think I'd have much opportunity to be out with another who is carrying

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    Hah - ''inconvenient'' Hear that quite a bit.

    I must stay off my soapbox but carry does IMO require some dedication. Sure it can be ''inconvenient'' - sometimes I find the presence of the piece less that totally comfortable even but - it sure needs to be there, otherwise it ain't a whole lotta help!
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    Bud, Vzwnnj,

    I am from Michigan as well and would love to join you two or any others from Michigan for an outing. Of course I leave in the southwest corner near Niles, just north of Elkhart Indiana (house is a mile north of the state line).

    Let me know if you are interested in meeting.

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    gddyup, from P.1, I relate. my wife told me once that there was no need for her to have her hardware since my criterria is 24-7. I asked her if I went down protecting her, who was going to keep the BG from walking up & finishing the job & making her a widow? She also is 24-7 now. I am probably one of the few who is worth more to my wife ALIVE than dead. no life ins. here. After 37 yr of marriage I am pretty sure it is not the income that she keeps me around for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longtooth
    gddyup, from P.1, I relate. my wife told me once that there was no need for her to have her hardware since my criterria is 24-7. I asked her if I went down protecting her, who was going to keep the BG from walking up & finishing the job & making her a widow? She also is 24-7 now. I am probably one of the few who is worth more to my wife ALIVE than dead. no life ins. here. After 37 yr of marriage I am pretty sure it is not the income that she keeps me around for.

    Once in awhile they WILL admit that we are right about some things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gddyup
    I'm lucky. My wife carries her Kahr everywhere we go together and everywhere we go apart. It took her a little bit to come around to carrying when she was with me, but I finally talked her into seeing the light. She use to tell me that she "didn't need to carry it since I had mine with me.." I asked her what she thought might happen if the SHTF and I went down landing on top of my handgun. "Think you could roll my ass over and get to it before whatever got me is getting you?" The light bulb that went off over her head almost blinded me!

    So now she carries everywhere we go. We have had brief discussions of "What ifs" but she has not yet reached the level of tactical awareness that I have. I make it a point to think through certain situations when I'm just out and about or sitting around at home. She's not quite there yet but I'll have her whipped into shape yet!
    Great post and Good Job
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