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    Az Hb 2075

    Got this off the AZ Jeep Board.....Ive sent em...lets get busy...

    HB 2075 needs your action today!

    HB 2075 is in the House Judiciary committee and is scheduled for a
    hearing this coming Thursday, February 2nd at 8:30 AM.

    We need to act NOW to get a favorable vote. A sample letter is
    provided near the end of this Alert. We also encourage you to attend
    the hearing and testify for the bill.

    HB 2075 modifies ARS 13-3102 (Misconduct Involving Weapons),
    Subsection A by making it an offense to carry a concealed weapon only
    when there is intent to commit a "serious offense" or "violent crime."

    HB 2075 removes the criminal offense for carrying concealed without a
    permit, but only for law-abiding citizens. Real criminals are still
    subject to arrest and prosecution. The CCW permit system is still in
    place and available with its advantages for out of state
    recognition/reciprocity and satisfying NICS requirements when
    purchasing a firearm.

    In 1994, two Appellate Court decisions, State v. Adams and State v.
    Moerman (, altered the
    meaning of ARS 13-3102, Subsection F that says that a weapon is not
    considered concealed under the following circumstances:

    "?a weapon or weapons carried in a belt holster which holster is
    wholly or partially visible, or carried in a scabbard or case
    designed for carrying weapons which scabbard or case is wholly or
    partially visible or carried in luggage."

    "?a weapon or weapons carried in a case, holster, scabbard, pack or
    luggage that is carried within a means of transportation or within a
    storage compartment, trunk or glove compartment of a means of

    State v. Adams ruled that a gun in a vehicle is a concealed weapon
    unless it is obvious from "ordinary observation" or "ordinary sight"
    by a person outside the vehicle. If you are wearing a gun in your
    vehicle or place it in your glove compartment, under the seat, in the
    center console, etc., anyone in your vehicle, child or adult, near
    enough to access your gun, could conceivably be arrested for carrying
    concealed if they do not have a CCW permit.

    State v. Moerman ruled that if you are carrying a weapon, it must be
    obvious to a casual observer. "Partially visible" in ARS 13-3102,
    Subsection F, is interpreted to mean "clearly visible." Same goes
    for the weapon's case or holster ? it also must be obvious that you
    are transporting a weapon. Wearing a gun openly on your right side
    but talking to a law enforcement officer on your left side, where you
    gun is not visible, could get you arrested if you don't have a CCW

    If you are serious about restoring your rights, we need make sure
    that HB 2075 is approved by the House Judiciary committee. Contact
    the Judiciary committee members and let them know you want HB 2075 to
    be favorably passed out of committee.

    Information on Judiciary Committee members can be found here:
    The following are the names and email addresses of each committee

    Eddie Farnsworth (R) - (Chairman)
    David Burnell Smith (R) - (Vice-Chairman)
    Ray Barnes (R) -
    Ted Downing (D) -
    Steve Gallardo (D) -
    Ben R. Miranda (D) -
    Jonathon Paton (R) -
    Doug Quelland (R) -
    Steven B. Yarbrough (R) -

    Committee members Downing, Gallardo and Miranda will most likely vote
    against HB 2075. However the majority can be persuaded to vote for
    HB 2075 if we show enough support. Success depends on YOU!

    Chairman Farnsworth controls the committee agenda. He needs to hear
    from you.

    Personalize - send a separate email message to each committee
    member. Include their name in the Salutation (Dear Representative
    Brad B.

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    Brad - hope this will go thru.
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    Thanks for the info AZG23. I haven't seen this before. I guess I'll get pro-active and get involved in state politics for once. I'm not sure any involvement on my part will help given the state of the State, what with all the California refugees and snowbirds flooding into AZ and bringing their left-wing politics with them. I swear, this place has changed by leaps and bounds in the last ten years. You can't swing a dead cat in Phoenix without hitting a lib anymore, and that used to be a rarity.

    Am I correct in reading that this bill would give this state essentially "Vermont Carry?" If so, and the bill gets passed, I will stand and cheer and do the happy monkey dance naked!

    Uuh, well, maybe not.

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