Can you believe this?!
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February 14th, 2009 05:40 PM
I'm supposed to take my girlfriend to a concert in the city tonight. One of the few times when I really feel the need to have my gun on me (always carry anyway) I can't!!!!!
C. No person shall possess a loaded or unloaded
firearm, rifle, shotgun or air gun, or a
dagger, dangerous knife, dirk, razor or stiletto, in
a public place or public facility in the city
Public Place - Any street, including the sidewalk
portion thereof, park, playground, recreation
area, cemetery or lot owned, leased, operated
or controlled by or on behalf of any government,
municipality or public authority or corporation
within the boundaries of the city, which is
generally accessible to the public, except
grounds used for educational purposes.
Public Facility - Any building or facility
owned, leased, operated or controlled by or on
behalf of any government, municipality or public
authority or corporation within the boundaries of
the city, except buildings or facilities used for
just found this.
This prohibition shall not apply to:
(7) Possession of a firearm by a person licensed
to carry a firearm pursuant to § 400.00
of the Penal Law or possession or transportation
by a gunsmith or dealer in firearms in accordance
with a license issued by the State of New
York or the United States, except that this subsection
shall not apply in a park or a public facility
other than a parking garage.
So I can keep it in the truck??? but not at the concert? Am I reading this right?
February 14th, 2009 05:49 PM
Any place I feel I need my gun on me ... I don't go; check my sig !
Originally Posted by AWLCO
It's a choice, it is your choice.
The first rule of a gunfight: "Don't be there !"
The second rule: "Bring enough gun"
jfl (NRA Life Member/Instructor - GOA - IDPA - GSSF - ex-IHMSA)
February 14th, 2009 05:49 PM
In North Carolina we cannot carry into a movie or concert either, but at least we can carry in the cities.
February 14th, 2009 05:53 PM
Most concerts are gun free zones. I haven't been in a state yet where it's allowed, and every major concert I've been to in the last few years has had medal detectors and friskers at the entrance.
We'd like to, but can't always be armed. It's good to invest in some unarmed combat training.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
February 14th, 2009 07:11 PM
really?! metal dectors?? wow. every concert ive been to, and there have been a LOT has NEVER had a metal dector or frisker, that would take forever if they frisked everyone. wow.
Originally Posted by C9H13NO3
February 14th, 2009 07:32 PM
when i went to a couple concerts last year in tampa, west palm and gainsville they had metal detectors/friskers @ all 3 of them
Originally Posted by mutumbo
February 14th, 2009 07:37 PM
wow. ive been to shows all over ky, a few places in nashville tn, and 2 in florida, orlando and tampa, and none of them ever had a scanner . . .what concerts are we talking about here so were on the same page?
February 14th, 2009 08:16 PM
yeah, same with me. i've even had to take my shoes off on more than 1 occasion.
Originally Posted by C9H13NO3
February 14th, 2009 08:22 PM
This is the Michigan gun free zones...
Pistol Free Areas
Individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol on the following premises:
Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian
Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.
Sports arena or stadium
A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises
Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons
An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university
"Premises" does not include the parking areas of the places listed above in 1 through 8.
A pistol is subject to immediate seizure if the CCW permit holder is carrying a pistol in a "pistol free" area. The following penalties may also be imposed:
First offense: State Civil Infraction, $500 fine, CCW permit suspended 6 months
Second offense: 90-day misdemeanor, $1000 fine, CCW permit revoked
Third and subsequent offenses: 4-year felony, $5000 fine, CCW permit revoked
Furthermore, effective March 29, 2001, per Administrative Order 2001-1 of the Michigan Supreme Court:
"Weapons are not permitted in any courtroom, office, or other space used for official court business or by judicial employees unless the chief judge or other person designated by the chief judge has given prior approval consistent with the court's written policy."
As for a concert, it depends on how many people the venue will hold.
February 15th, 2009 09:47 AM
Here in Nashville, whether or not they have metal detectors seems to depend on the type of band playing and, basically, the expected audience makeup.
The Elton John concert a few years ago didn't have detectors or frisks but the Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, etc concerts I went to in college did. Haven't seen any detectors at the Rhyman Auditorium yet (Train and Squeeze concerts).
I had a very hot female officer frisk me going into the Ozzy concert back in college. I can only describe that one as "being groped," when she grabbed my butt with both hands ... from the front. I wanted to go back through the line but my buddy was in a hurry to go in to see the show. Heh, the frisking was the best part of the concert (there's something about a woman with cuffs and a gun. ).
Anyway, we have a similar law about carrying on municipal property so I always leave mine locked in the car. I don't worry much about something happening AT the shows but walking to and from the car is when I get the uneasy feeling.
February 15th, 2009 12:32 PM
Tell her to buy the CD and spend the rest on ammo!!! Much better as she can listen over and over again besides being armed while doing it!! Problem solved!!
When Seconds Count, The Cops Are Just Minutes Away!!
February 15th, 2009 03:10 PM
Well, I'm glad we went. She got free tickets form work and we were in a suite. Jessica Simpson opened for Rascal Flatts. It was a good show. I locked the glock in the truck and went naked. No detectors or friskers, could have gotten away with it. Luckily, the night went off without a hitch.
I just cant believe we cant carry in the city, ya know where all the BG's with guns are...
2 weeks ago some 14yo punk kid shot a LEO in the back of the head as he was walking to his car.
Rochester Police Officer Shot - 13WHAM.com
February 15th, 2009 03:30 PM
in michigan entertainment centers over 2500 are a pistol free zone.
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