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    What would i have done? nothing Cant carry in a bar here ..

    Course that one reason among others i dont go to bars


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    In Oregon it's legal.

    What would I have done? Same thing that I am always doing when I hear about things happening in bars, watching the local news on the tv.

    I don't go to bars. But, even if I did, I still wouldn't have pulled. Most bars are too crowded and it's hard to hit a target that is moving around with a non-target engaging them.

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    Up here, you can carry in a bar. If it were me, I would not intervene unless the bouncer was down and this guy was moving in for the kill. At that point it's time to stop the attack. It may even be advisable to go for a shot at him with my OC before it got to that point but only if it looked like the stabber was starting to take command of the situation.
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    No alcoholic establisment carry here in NC, Secondly, if it was not my business then oh well. However, if the bouncer was getting it bad. I might have OC Sprayed the guy I don't know. I look at my CCW as for protecting my family and myself. In this sue happy world I would be reluctant to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueLion
    I look at my CCW as for protecting my family and myself. In this sue happy world I would be reluctant to help.
    I concur. My CCW (as a last resort) is for me, my family, possibly a uniformed law officer (only if s/he was seconds from death by a BG and absolutely NO LEO backup available) and maybe a small child. Everyone else above 21 in my state should have their CCW and be protecting their own.

    And the bouncer goes to work knowing the possibility of unarmed/armed violence. That is a risk s/he is taking. Not my place to be on-call bouncer w/ tons of money for lawyers and such.

    This situation for me, it would be exit stage LEFT!!!

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    Guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy.

    Any place that needs a bouncer doesn't need me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmike
    Guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy.

    Any place that needs a bouncer doesn't need me.

    mm

    Im not that old and i Agree to that

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    MN states no carry if:
    1. Under the influence of alcohol.
    2. BAC of .10 or over.
    3. if under .10 then no carry if over .04.

    Now if second hand beer fumes satisfies #1, bar carry can't be good. It's easier to avoid the bars, period. Ahh, but when the kid's band is the featured entertainment...they call us POWER PARENTS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White
    What would i have done? nothing Cant carry in a bar here ..

    Course that one reason among others i dont go to bars
    same here. no ccw in any place that allows alcohol consumption on the premisis so i dont go to these places. as much as i miss red lobster and a few of the upper end steak houses, i cant bring myself to disarm.

    id like to see change in this policy. i think ccw should be allowed so long as the ccw holder isnt drinking. seems pretty common sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmike
    Any place that needs a bouncer doesn't need me.
    although i agree with your premice, sadly every place needs a bouncer......isnt this why we all carry in the first place?

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    No, I do not think that every place needs a bouncer. To me, that is pushing our safety concerns a few more decimal places past where it realistically needs to go.

    If I truely felt that way, I'd not leave the house and that house would have to be a fortress.

    Never drop your guard, but don't let your very real concerns take you across the line into paranoia. Whatever confidence you get from "carrying" should NOT allow you to go places that you otherwise would avoid. If it does, then you've set yourself up to be adjudged "looking for trouble."

    I wouldn't carry so I could go into "danger zones" safely, I'd carry to stay safe where I am. Its a question of mind-set, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalSelection
    same here. no ccw in any place that allows alcohol consumption on the premisis so i dont go to these places. as much as i miss red lobster and a few of the upper end steak houses, i cant bring myself to disarm.

    id like to see change in this policy. i think ccw should be allowed so long as the ccw holder isnt drinking. seems pretty common sense to me.

    See now that where its different here as long as they dont make 50% of there money from Booze i can go there so red lobster is still ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmike
    If I truely felt that way, I'd not leave the house and that house would have to be a fortress.
    i think you interpreted my statement a little more literally than i meant it.


    I wouldn't carry so I could go into "danger zones" safely, I'd carry to stay safe where I am.
    exactly. my weapon doesnt enable me to look for trouble or put myself in harms way, but like a bouncer its presence is necessary because bad guys go to good places too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White
    as long as they dont make 50% of there money from Booze i can go there so red lobster is still ok
    do they honor MT CCW? i sure do miss good shrimp, crab, and steak.

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    NaturalSelection,

    No problem here, just the limitations of the language.

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