Just got my NYS carry permit!!
This is a discussion on Just got my NYS carry permit!! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; To start, My name is Jason, 23yo, from upstate NY. I just picked up my permit from the Sheriffs office today. Im Very excited in ...
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February 27th, 2009 10:00 PM
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Just got my NYS carry permit!!
To start, My name is Jason, 23yo, from upstate NY. I just picked up my permit from the Sheriffs office today. Im Very excited in many ways, and a little nervous.
i dont yet have a "carryable" handgun, but im working on it. Ive got a med-frame Ruger 357,w/6" barrel... so i cant exactly conceal it.
i have been doing alot of reading since i applied for my permit, in regards to rules, regs, and issues. Im tryin to research carrying in the workplace.
I work for a small security company as a dispatcher, and i work all nights(c-line) location could not be worse.... very un-desirable neighborhood. i really want to carry here while on duty, and i am not sure how to approch it with managment.
any suggestions?
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind...Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks. --- Thomas Jefferson
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February 27th, 2009 10:07 PM
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Congrats on the permit, Jason!
There are a lot of great folks here to give you advice and ideas on concealed carry and attendant issues.
On the workplace issue, you might directly ask the owner if they have an informal policy that prohibits or allows concealed carry. I assume as a small company they have few written "formal" policies, but could be surprised.
You could pose the question on a theoretical or hypothetical basis "since the neighborhood" is a bit tough. Just make sure he doesn't live next to the office.
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February 27th, 2009 10:12 PM
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Congrats on the permit, and welcome from Middle Tennessee! 
Rock and Glock's suggestions seem sound to me! Good luck!
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February 27th, 2009 10:39 PM
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February 27th, 2009 11:12 PM
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Congrats on the permit!
Are you one of the fortunately few in NYS that have a license with no administrative restrictions (carry only for target shooting or hunting)?
Regarding your employers attitude, it's tough to say. If you ask and they give you permission and the unthinkable happens they could share a portion of the responsibility and liabilty for how you use or misuse the firearm on their property. In this liability phobic society we live in many companies would not risk that exposure.
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February 27th, 2009 11:47 PM
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Full Concealed Carry!
but id love to see legal open carry, as they say, an ARMED society is a safe society!
as for the issues at work, I have good reason to want to carry, let alone that it is MY LEGAL RIGHT.
Ive seen all sorts of crime right in the back parking lot of my job... drug deals, prostitution, and petty larceny(guy got into a co-workers vehicle and stole several items). even had someone jimmy the latch on the outer foyer door and set the alarms off one night, i nearly bumped into him as i was checking the building on my round, only a door and a lexan window between us as he took off out the door!
It really bugs me walking out at midnight some nights to my truck. I really wanted to have a sidearm many times.
I guess i should sit down with managment and discuss it.
wish me luck
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind...Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks. --- Thomas Jefferson
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February 27th, 2009 11:49 PM
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glad for your ccwp
Cong on ytour ccwp what part of upstate do you live in, about carring on the job a lot of companies do not allow it simply due to insurance purposes, even though it may be a security firm unless there are other security employees who have permits related to their security jobs, I know it sounds crazy but thats the way it is with the insurance co.
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February 27th, 2009 11:51 PM
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Ulster County. I live in the Catskills, but work in City of Kingston
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind...Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks. --- Thomas Jefferson
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February 28th, 2009 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by
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FordDriver
Congrats on the permit!
Are you one of the fortunately few in NYS that have a license with no administrative restrictions (carry only for target shooting or hunting)?
Regarding your employers attitude, it's tough to say. If you ask and they give you permission and the unthinkable happens they could share a portion of the responsibility and liabilty for how you use or misuse the firearm on their property. In this liability phobic society we live in many companies would not risk that exposure.
Full Unrestricted Carry is not too difficult to get in NY as long as you aren't anywhere near that hell-hole called NYC. All the liberal stupidity has expanded out from the center of Manhattan and turned brains into tofu as far as Albany. Luckily for me I'm further west. Unfortunately NY political types are most easily infected with the anti-itis. Case in point: Carolyn McCarthy. Her single minded agenda is so myopic that it makes Governor Patterson look like he has 20-20 vision. Only the political power brokers like Chuck U. Schumer get carry permits in NYC while he fights tooth and nail in the Senate to strip away our rights to lawful gun ownership. Welcome to NY, you're gonna love it here.
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February 28th, 2009 12:56 AM
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Congrats on the new permit!
Research the employee handbook...if there's nothing there...keep your mouth closed (don't tell anyone)...
...don't ask about it either.
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February 28th, 2009 01:10 AM
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Welcome to the forum and congrats on your permit.
I agree with retsupt99. If the company doesn't have a written policy and you haven't been specifically told you can't carry don't ask.
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February 28th, 2009 01:29 AM
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Welcome to the forum and congrats on your permit.
I agree with retsupt99. If the company doesn't have a written policy and you haven't been specifically told you can't carry don't ask.
+1 If not written and not specified verbally, DON'T ask. This is one of the few times I agree with the statement, "it's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission."
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February 28th, 2009 02:11 AM
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If you ask your boss for permission and they don't have a policy, they may tell you not to carry. Because of the liability issue.
As others have said, if it's not in the handbook, don't ask. Just follow the wise advise of your own signature line: "Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks."
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February 28th, 2009 05:42 AM
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From another nystater,congrats and stay safe!
Always be alert and aware!!!
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February 28th, 2009 07:25 AM
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Given what you described, I also recommend carrying a good light!
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