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    CSU delays weapons policy

    CSU delays weapons policy | coloradoan.com | The Coloradoan,

    March 1, 2009


    CSU delays weapons policy

    BY TREVOR HUGHES
    TrevorHughes @coloradoan.com

    CSU officials have decided to delay developing a new on-campus weapons policy until a lawsuit against the University of Colorado's more restrictive policy is resolved by a judge.

    The Faculty Council of Colorado State University in December asked CSU leaders to develop a campus-specific policy re-garding the carrying of concealed weapons on campus.

    CSU currently uses the default state law, which permits concealed weapons if someone has a permit. Weapons are banned from residence halls and CSU-run apartments.

    The University of Colorado system and the University of Northern Colorado have policies that make it illegal to have weapons, including firearms, explosives and other dangerous or illegal weapons on campus. The University of Denver, a private university, also banned weapons from campus.

    CSU's faculty council asked CSU administrators to develop a CSU-specific plan, but didn't suggest what it should say.

    CU's longstanding policy is being challenged in court by current and former students who say the ban on concealed weapons violates a 2003 state law permitting them to be carried. CU officials argue that they have the right to govern what happens on their campuses and consider concealed weapons to be a "distraction" from the learning environment. CU asked a judge to dismiss the suit earlier this month.

    CSU officials decided to hold off on developing a policy until the lawsuit is resolved, fearing CSU could get named as a party if it took action now.

    "I think there was a sense in the leadership of our institution that we didn't want to develop any specific revisions to our weapons policy in light of the CU lawsuit," said interim CSU Provost Rick Miranda. "We want to have that discussion, but we want to make sure it is informed in the best possible way about what's legal and not."

    In pushing for a new policy, faculty members said they thought CSU needed one specific to the university.

    "We don't have our own (policy), and that's rare; most (higher education institutions) have a pretty strict weapons policy," Richard Eykholt, chairman of CSU's faculty council, said in December.

    Eykholt guessed a new weapons policy, which would take time to enact, would allow more university control.

    "We'll probably go the way most universities have and become more restrictive," he said.

    Eykholt said discussions began after the April 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, where a gunman killed more than 30 people on the university campus.

    Miranda this week said CSU leaders are "comfortable" with the existing policy.

    "We've sort of put it on the back burner," Miranda said of the change. "The evidence (CSU public safety experts) are aware of indicates that immediate action would not really be necessary."
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    Eykholt said discussions began after the April 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, where a gunman killed more than 30 people on the university campus.
    Yep stricter gun control policies would have prevented that from ever happening,because as you know criminals really hate breaking laws
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    Needless to say, I don't like what's happening there. If "developing their own policy" happens, it won't be for the better.

    Right now, they have a great non-policy. Even the Chief of the CSU Campus Police likes it.

    Like the saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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    "CU officials argue that they have the right to govern what happens on their campuses and consider concealed weapons to be a "distraction" from the learning environment."

    Make that "distraction from the indoctrination environment". CSU was an early member of Campus Compact (from 1992), through which faculty are officially allowed to incorporate their personal views into lectures and scholarship...and left-wing advocacy groups are allowed to sponsor "student" organizations. Just a snippet from their mission statement is enough to make you sick:

    "A lesson of the early 1990s, a time when there was increasingly widespread adoption of service-learning, was that individual faculty members, no matter how committed to rethinking teaching and learning in their courses and redesigning their curriculum, were limited in their ability to deepen and expand the practice of service learning. One barrier they faced was related to faculty roles and rewards: unless the administration, particularly chief academic officers (CAOs) provosts, deans, and chairs were attuned to the interests and needs of faculty who wanted to incorporate community-based public problem solving into their courses and actively addressed the re-writing of promotion and tenure guidelines on their campus, eliminating disincentives for faculty by broadening notions of scholarship, then service-learning was not going to take root at an institution. Similarly, no single faculty member, no matter how proficient in incorporating student service experiences into the course content, is able to maintain long-term partnerships with agencies and individuals in a community,..." you get the drift. Yuck!

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