Animal Hospital

This is a discussion on Animal Hospital within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; In Missouri, a hospital is off limits. Would this include an Emergency Vet Office, or as some call it, an Animal Hospital? I took my ...

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    Animal Hospital

    In Missouri, a hospital is off limits. Would this include an Emergency Vet Office, or as some call it, an Animal Hospital?

    I took my dog to her appt yesterday and was carrying, and the question occurred to me after I left.

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    I wouldn't think a vet's office would count, but I've seen screwier things!

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    that's a tricky one. 1st, does the law define hospital at the beginning of the section? 2nd, what is the generally accepted definition of the word hospital? And 3rd, what was the legislatures intent in the law?

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hospital

    Looking at dictionary definitions on the web, 'hospital' doesn't appear to differentiate between humans and animals. So your answer would probably have to stand in either how your state's law is written or a court challenge of what the legislatures intent was when passing the law. (provided you were ever caught carrying and someone wanted to make a stink).

    That's my take on it.
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    I would like to think that common sense would prevail and an animal hospital would not be covered by the law--but wow, crazy things can and do happen.

    Personally, I wouldn't hesitate to carry at an animal hospital because I think it would be unlikely that even if found out, no one in their right mind would think the hospital prohibition actually applied to that situation.

    Now, if the animal hospital is at a University's Veterinary College, then a whole other set of carry on campus issues crop up.

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    Don't know about your situation but my Vet always wants to know what I'm carrying.
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    Hmmm.... did the vet see your gun and make a big stink about it?

    No? Probably because it was concealed!
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    It depends on what the definition of "is" is.
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    Simply put.... Our dogs are like our children..Right ?..(wink,wink) Looks good to the animal lovers.
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    Sounds ridiculous, but a similar thing occured to me while driving past a place called "The Doll Hospital"

    I guess they fix antique dolls or something. Anyhoo, while there is the common sense opinion, I can certainly see some whacko prosecuter arguing that it is a hospital, because I haven't seen "hospital" defined.
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    I would think that you couldn't carry there because of the drugs the Vet has. Its the same stuff as hospitals except the label says something like "For Veterinary Use Only".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcake View Post
    Sounds ridiculous, but a similar thing occured to me while driving past a place called "The Doll Hospital"

    I guess they fix antique dolls or something. Anyhoo, while there is the common sense opinion, I can certainly see some whacko prosecuter arguing that it is a hospital, because I haven't seen "hospital" defined.
    Check out the link I posted the the definition of 'hospital'

    It lists dolls
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    You guys are "over-thinking" this one............

    Without even looking I can guarantee that the folks who wrote in the "no carrying" in hospitals rule never even considered a pet hospital....

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    I doesn'treally matter what they intended, it is how it will later be interpretted(?).

    There were no problems, no one other than me and the dog knew that I was carrying, just one of those "what if scenarios" running through my head after I left made me think of it.

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    I would like to think that common sense would prevail
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    Quote Originally Posted by akhimark View Post
    I would think that you couldn't carry there because of the drugs the Vet has. Its the same stuff as hospitals except the label says something like "For Veterinary Use Only".
    Using the "they have drugs there" line of thinking would lead you then to assume that it would also be prohibited to carry anywhere that had a pharmacy...Walmart, Walgreens, your doctors office, clinics etc.

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that some CCW restrictions are there simply to get the CCW fence sitters to pass the CCW law. Things like no carry in church, hospitals, day care centers and schools are things the CCW supporters typically give up in order to get a CCW initiative to pass.

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