What to tell LEO when pulled over w/o CHL

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    CHL law book

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/LS-16.pdf

    You can print it out and read those law book.

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    thank you Kerbouchard, I too grow tired of CHL instructors & others spewing/spreading erroneous info
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    Thank you Kerbouchard! Well written, accurate presentation of the law, plus excellent ideas.

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    Ahhh, I love being a Texan
    As long as it is concealed, and you are
    A. Walking from your residence to your car
    B. Driving in your car (doesn't matter where i.e. the "crossing county lines nonsense")
    C. Walking from your car to your residence..

    As long as you are concealed you are golden, either keep it in a holster or under your seat, glovebox, wherever, just not laying on the passenger seat out in the open.

    I too am waiting on my plastic and I carry everyday to and from my home. I lock it up in one of those COM steel boxes I got from Cabela's which I bolted the cable to the seat frame if I leave my vehicle. (Yes I know it can still be stolen, but at least it would suffice as some source of determent).
    It will be so nice to be able to get out of my car while still carrying.....come on TX DPS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaleNursePX4 View Post
    I too am waiting on my plastic and I carry everyday to and from my home. I lock it up in one of those COM steel boxes I got from Cabela's which I bolted the cable to the seat frame if I leave my vehicle. (Yes I know it can still be stolen, but at least it would suffice as some source of determent).
    It will be so nice to be able to get out of my car while still carrying.....come on TX DPS!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandit383 View Post
    Another State to State thing.

    Also, laws can be interrupted differently from State to State -- e.g., in Open Carry States what constitutes in plain sight differs.

    FWIIW -- the advice about the glove box is wrong in Virginia.

    Here, if you can own/buy a gun, you can carry it openly -- w/o a CHP. However, if you put it in the glove box, you concealed it and w/o a CHP that is a violation.
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    As long as you are concealed you are golden, either keep it in a holster or under your seat, glovebox, wherever, just not laying on the passenger seat out in the open.
    In Texas if you do not have a CHL you cannot conceal it on your person in a vehicle,you can conceal from home to vehicle.from vehicle to place of business etc.,but once you are in vehicle It must be concealed off your body.If you get caught driving in a vehicle while carrying a concealed handgun on your person without a CHL,you will probably be arrested for possession of an illegally concealed weapon
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    In Texas if you do not have a CHL you cannot conceal it on your person in a vehicle,you can conceal from home to vehicle.from vehicle to place of business etc.,but once you are in vehicle It must be concealed off your body.If you get caught driving in a vehicle while carrying a concealed handgun on your person without a CHL,you will probably be arrested for possession of an illegally concealed weapon
    I'm sorry, but this is completely incorrect
    there are no provisions in the weapons laws for what you have stated

    you may have a handgun in the vehicle but it must not be in plain view, it can be on your person, glovebox, under seat or anywhere else as long as its concealed, this is with or without CHL
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    Wow, I thought we had already been through this.
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    yeah, me too
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    Here it is in print:

    Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
    (1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
    (2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
    (a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:
    (1) the handgun is in plain view; or
    (2) the person is:
    (A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic;
    (B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or
    (C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01.
    You can carry "on or about your person", in this situation. Also, you can carry on any premises you own or under your control (your own business). The only requirement is that it be concealed, in your vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    Wow, I thought we had already been through this.
    Good thing we went over it again though. Good refresher for some people who thought wrong about the this situation, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkvan87 View Post
    Good thing we went over it again though. Good refresher for some people who thought wrong about the this situation, yes?
    I think Kerbouchard was referring to erroneous info about where you can/can't carry a handgun inside your vehicle...Kerbouchard correct me if thats not the case
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    Lightbulb My 2 cents

    In Pennsylvania, with an LTCF permit, there is no requirement to declare you're armed during a minor traffic stop. If said stop were to escalate to the point where the LEO wants more than my drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance...telling me to exit the vehicle, then I would inform him of my permit and that I was armed. I have not been pulled over for any reason, nor have I been in an car accident since getting my permit in the mid 90's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    Wow, I thought we had already been through this.
    Just show him your CCW badge and your good to go

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