Do you personally know anyone with a NYC or NJ concealed carry permit?

Do you personally know anyone with a NYC or NJ concealed carry permit?

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    Do you personally know anyone with a NYC or NJ concealed carry permit?

    I'm curious to know how many of you have ever personally known someone with a concealed carry permit in either New York City or New Jersey. I have known one private citizen with a NYC unrestricted permit. He was a very wealthy, very well-connected attorney who had worked in government service before going into corporate law. I have known one individual with a New Jersey permit. He was (and I assume, still is) an investigator for a very wealthy, very well-connected defense attorney. I seem to be seeing a pattern here. So, I'm just curious if any of you guys have personally known anybody with one of these rare animals.
    Gonzo
    PS - I would have included HI as well, but I think there are only 2 individuals in the entire state with concealed carry permits, making it a bit of a moot point.
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    I lived in NJ & worked in NJ & NY for 35 years. In all that time, I did not know a common citizen in either place w/a CCW.

    My daughter is married to a NJ municipal LEO. They own a very thriving business for which the customers pay cash. Each night, my son-in-law must come down to the business and take the receipts to the bank because the state of NJ denied her a CCW. When she appealed the denial & requested a CCW w/restrictions covering only her nightly trips to the bank, she was denied again.

    I'm sure that she could have at least gotten a restricted CCW anywhere else in the country, even California, given her "Good Cause".
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    lived in NYC for 4 years. Not one.

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    I lived in NJ for 17 years prior to joining the Army. My dad owned several pistols and rifles. He was always denied a CCW, even while working as an armed guard.

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    You need large amount of money and know the right people. Money greases a lot of wheels.

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    When I worked for my father's and uncle's business in NYC back in the late 70's and early 80's, both my cousins had carry permits because we delivered video tapes to video stores throughout NYC and we collected thousands of dollars for COD deliveries. I was not able to get a carry permit, but received a premise permit which allowed me to carry a handgun on the premise of the business. I was denied a carry permit because my cousins already had a carry permit for our business. It took over 6 months to get the carry/premise permit. And we had to take our handguns to the police department to show them the guns.
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    Saw my first one last week and in Alabama!!! I was in a gun shop and a guy told the clerk that he was from NYC. The clerk said something about not being able to carry in NYC and the guy said "I'm licensed to carry" and pulled his permit from his wallet. I didn't get a close look, just a glance as he showed it to the clerk. I don't know what his occupation was or his political status.
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    I've lived in NY (city and suburbs) for 56 years and I don't know anyone that has a pistol license with the NYC endorsement.

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    I lived in NJ for 25 years. I knew many pistol owners but never one with a license to carry.
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    there are a few in NYC

    When the statistics on the linked page were compiled, there were 2291 unrestricted NYC CC licenses (in a city of 7 or 8 million).

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    In these "May Issue" jusidictions, We the People are basically being told the government will pick and choose those lofty citizens whose lives are worth protecting. Of this select few, of course, they put themselves among the worthy. They will also include celebrities and the wealthy.

    Our predecessors fought with a guy who called himself George III over this basic issue. Hopefully, sensible citizens will some day be able to vote out these elitists.

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    Fellow that worked for me was from N.J. & had a CC permit.........told me it was a real adventure obtaining it. Apparently he owned some rather extensive properties there and also was quite friendly with the local authorities..............said he had to engage the services of an attorney to get that license.

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    My dad had one up until he retired from the Railway Express Agency in 1974.
    The pistol was owned by the railroad but it was listed on his NYC pistol permit.
    He was a Special Agent and supervisor for the Railway Express Agency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boscobeans View Post
    My dad had one up until he retired from the Railway Express Agency in 1974.
    The pistol was owned by the railroad but it was listed on his NYC pistol permit.
    He was a Special Agent and supervisor for the Railway Express Agency.
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    Bosco,
    That is an interesting story, thanks. There are some fascinating stories to be told by Railroad cops (old and current). Sounds like your Dad retired from REA just in time. I think they went defunct right around '75 or '76.
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    Everybody sit down. Ok ready. My grandfather, 3 uncles and my father all had NYC carry permits. Back in the day it was hard but not impossible. All had businesses that dealt in cash. My father got his Lic in 1981/82 and took his Colt .38 to the range fired it maybe 10 rounds and took it home and put in the safe until I added it to my Nassau County permit last year 4 years after his death. 1 uncle lost it do to non-related arrest. 1 uncle passes away. My last uncle turned in his .38 to Suffolk County PD after carrying the thing for 30 plus years and the one time in his life he got mugged the mugging was over in a blink and never had time to react. The mugger pushed my uncle onto of my aunt and took a razor and sliced his pants open and sliced his front pocket right off. So on the way home he surrender his gun.

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